I think busses are better than light rail TBH. They just seem far more versatile.
But then again they seem louder so I’m not sure.
Battery-electric buses exist which eliminates the engine noise problem.
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What I want to see more than anything else is for the ground floor of WAY more buildings to have a bike garage. E-Bikes, more than anything else, seem like the savior of the world. 
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So why does NYC have such a hard time financing road construction if they have a high number of people per road? Is it because they are subsidizing the subway instead of roads? I was also just taking about gas here, the everyday expense. Subway fares are $2.75 one trip, so let’s say you take 2 trips a day, one to work and one back home. That costs you $1,003.75 dollars a year. Also, that cost is the same whether you are going one stop over or all the way down the line. I think paying close to 3 bucks to go one stop over is ludicrous.
You are also leaving out that purchasing a car is a one-time deal, so the initial shock drops significantly over time. You also have the freedom long-term to go wherever you desire. If you pay more than 40 dollars any more than once every couple weeks, you’re an idiot. If you think you’re going to travel any more than a quarter of a marathon by bike, you’re an idiot.
Also, some of the things you listed aren’t purchased by everyone. Regular maintenance means oil changes, filter replacements and the like. (Never get your air filter replaced, simply tell them to knock the dust off and that saves you tons). You can also wash your own car for a fraction of the cost. I would also have to see your loans and leases, but that’s private financial info so I don’t want to get into that. Parts such as tires depend on the make and model, and usually last between 3 and 5 years. Brake pads last much longer, though.
Parking is another. People carpool, for instance, or take uber/lyft to their spots. Also, by doing a bit of research, it seems like NYC parking is cornered by Icon Parking, which is driving the price up. Everywhere else I’ve looked, from Chicago to Los Angeles, seems to have much cheaper parking. They are also cities with more highways and more readily available garages and greater competition for clients.
It’s been a good talk, I’ve enjoyed this discussion very much. Really, I mean it a lot, you guys are amazing, but I am really starting to have a headache, so I have to check out for the night. Good night, guys!
NYC subsidizes a lot more than roads and subways. It’s a very big city, it does a lot.
If you work in the city and use the subway that consistently, you’re just going to by an unlimited pass instead. If you think that price is ridiculous for one stop over, walk or bike there like thousands of people do every day. Or you could take a car, good luck tho. Lol there’s a reason the vast, vast majority of people don’t own a car in Manhattan.
A one time deal with that can leave an economic hole you won’t reach riding the subway for years. Or you could get a beater. Pay 40 dollars on what exactly? The subway, or the car? You can easily spend more than that in a single week on either of those.
You’ve never riden a bike in your life have you? A quarter of a marathon is 6.5 miles. That is nothing on a bike. Even less so on an electric bike.
All still costs that you have to pay eventually. Unless you get an electric car, where the maintenance in comparison is almost non existent. Still have to buy the car itself though.
People carpool. And/or take Uber/Lyft. So not their own car, which was your point.
That’s still parking you have to pay for. (Parking I might add, that often takes the place of something that could provide more value to the area)
Lol You did not just use LA as an example. LA, despite having one of the largest and most extensively used highways systems in the entire US, often tops charts for the worst traffic by far. It is literally famous for how bad the traffic is. (Despite half the population of NYC in the city proper) And I know that your solution of course would be to just build more highways. Guess what? They tried that already, it just made the problem worse.
All while splitting communities and making it hell to get around the city.
That’s why LA is building a subway system as we speak and the entire state of California has been modernizing and expanding its transit systems.
And I like how this entire time, absolutely nothing you’ve said has proven the usefulness of an inner city highway. We have decades of experience with them, we know they’re bad. We’ve known that for quite some time.
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This guy is trolling. Please do not feed.
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Hahaha I can’t tell if you’re serious! Why get somewhere faster, healthier and FOR FREE when you could just pay to be part of traffic? Why spend $200 on a simple machine when you could just spend $40,000 instead?
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As expected, Broadway Vision from 33rd to 21st is happening.
I wonder exactly what it will entail.
https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pr2023/open-streets-quisqueya-plaza.shtml
“…Mayor Adams’ $375 million commitment will also bring transformative upgrades to public spaces across the city, including:
- The Broadway Vision plan to connect Madison Square to Greeley Square between 21st and 33rd streets…”
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I hope that this money is used to buy more trees and flower planters.
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Hopefully the pedestrianization of Broadway will run from Union Square to Central Park (or beyond) one day!
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That’s clearly going to happen based on the comments from city officials.
I’d like to see it extend to the Battery.
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Very nice. They should add a lot of planters to spruce it up.
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