NEW YORK | The Greenwich (125 Greenwich St) | 912 FT | 72 FLOORS

I agree this is better than most bare walls both because of the middle windows and the curved corners. This is not a terrible building. But the finish on the bare concrete walls could be so much better. It diminishes the otherwise classy design. Rather than being just a good building it could have been a great one.

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I like this design better than 220 CPS even though 220 did a (better) job covering up the South elevation shear wall. Compared to what we feared with some early renders this is a gift

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I’m with @chused on this. The exposed core doesn’t bother me since it’s well integrated into the overall design. And the fact that it looks like a gigantic I-beam is pretty cool in itself – a witty pomo touch worthy of Philip Johnson.

It’s just that the concrete is a bit rough looking, which jars somewhat with all that smooth, curved glass. Add some cladding – ideally metal (to enhance the I-beam effect) – and I think it’s a potential stunner.

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One Liberty Plaza all clad in black looks a bit ominous in that photo next to all those gleaming new glass towers: to me, and probably only me, that building evokes the image of Darth Vader. The exposed concrete on 125 Greenwich was in fact artfully detailed; but yes, I see the above mentioned points, any type of cladding would have been better. One can only wonder if that we a matter of VE, and therefore completely out of the design architects control.

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Well looking imposing and with forboding, that was supposed to be part of a brutalist’s building charm, as it were.

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One Liberty also is not the greatest of buildings, especially when compared to the Mies designed Seagram Building uptown at 375 Park and 52nd Street, also with a black facade. That is deservedly a historically designated classic.

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I see it just as a giant tombstone for something better, but that’s just the way I see it

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Yeah, having replaced the Singer Building doesn’t do it any favors in my book. That it’s outclassed (IMHO) by another black-clad building nearby – 140 Broadway – doesn’t help its cause either.

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I agree. I love 140 Broadway but hate 1 Liberty.

Just so I don’t go too far off topic, I think this one is pretty attractive. The exposed concrete gives me bad vibes but the smooth glass cladding makes up for it.

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Outclassed in style sure but 1 liberty has those chunky floor plates always attractive to financial and law tenants. Both 1 liberty and 140 bway suffer from low ceilings and older internal mechanisms typical of buildings of their generation.

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/jduy74AWAogECjmH8

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Credit: FC

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Looks so good that a person could be forgiven for assuming Vinoly collaborated with Richard Rogers and Fumihiko Maki to synch up the neighborhood aesthetic. I actually like this one best of the three. Who needs a Pritzker?

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BzQmwQ2FLN7/?igshid=12k56z80ekica

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I didn’t see this one coming

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“The 1,396-foot-tall, 88-story skyscraper, designed by Rafael Viñoly, topped out in March.”

That is some very old info they are going with! Lol.

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TBH, had they kept it at that height it would be drawing more interest and positive attention.

Maybe they would have better sales.

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JC is referring to how Real Deal mixed this up with vinoly’s other project 432 Park Ave. I saw it but I’m so used to low standards in journalism that I didn’t bother to mention it.

This one was slated for 1200+ feet at one point but never the height of 432 park ave

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It was supposed to be 1,450-ish! But was massively reduced

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