NEW YORK | Second Avenue Subway

Kind of a misleading headline. They only talked to a few naysayers.

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Seems to be the regrettable trend of metro Journalism, either you run a bespoke outlet that is honest about life in this damn city and makes little to no money (Hellsgate/streetsblog) or you are a corporate entity that consistently reports on the minority opinion/wrong problem

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Streetsblog is indeed a good antidote to the automobile-oriented mass media, but they do overcorrect at times. Sometimes they make mountains out of molehills, for example in this article about the Chicago Tribune that is full of speculation and insinuation:

Meanwhile, with respect to the Second Avenue Subway, the litigation is picking up pace:

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These buildings are gonna get destroyed for the 106th Street Station and Ancillary Building in that area according to the video: https://youtu.be/h6-MVzb58E4

Now these are fine examples of a bygone architectural style known as “taxpayer” - and I think they should be saved.

Can the facades be preserved like with the Brooklyn Heights townhouse? Or is that something that’s only done with subways that run through rich neighborhoods?

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Come on Waymond, you know it’s all about the Benjamins :wink: :wink:

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Looks like the one on the corner is a taxpayer. The others look like they were built as individual family homes.

These Buildings too according to wikipedia pages by chapter as of July 2018.

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All images via Google Maps.

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The Macedonian church facade in the last photo looks like it should be saved as a historic monument. Maybe the government of the Former Yugoslav Republic of North Macedonia can put up the funds to do so.

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Not gonna lie if this or the IBX doesn’t break ground by this year, I want the feds to suspend $$$ to the MTA. Are we supposed to get excited for consultants? Just f*cking build this thing. This should have started a year or two after the first phase opened.

The MTA is working on building up their insider engineering team, which would cut out the need for consultants. It’s one of the key differences why American infrastructure costs so much more than any other country.

One of the other issues is that we don’t build enough rail infrastructure to support a large industry of people who work on it.

Countries like Japan and Switzerland are constantly building/maintaining so much track, it’s realistic to get an associated job in the field. This also cuts down on costs because there’s always an existing pool of trained labor that knows how to build it.

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The term consultant doesn’t sound great, but it looks like these are the contracts for the construction management and engineering teams who will actually design and build the project.
It’s a good sign the project is moving forward.

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So when is this actually expected to break ground? Sorry just irate at how slow things move here and everybody is just expected to be content with it. This project has been “moving forward” for years now.

I wish Trump and co could actually use their powers for good and force the MTA to actually complete/start projects before they ask for more money

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Don’t we all. Such a move could of potentially boosted their popularity in NY. But the reality is they’re too busy calling the subway a “dangerous shithole” and trying to actively starve the MTA by trying to kill congestion pricing or if MTA doesn’t do it themselves.

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If wishes were horses….

The MTA has a new presentation regarding the 2nd phase of the Second Ave Subway project.

Some screenshots showing station design elements on the stations:

The most notable thing is 116th Street which features elevator-only entry. This I’m weary of considering the potential failure of the elevators crippling station access.

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Why are escalators not planned for One-hundred sixteenth Street subway station?

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