NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,389 FT | 70 FLOORS




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This thing is fu-cking HUGE!

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And to think it’s not even HALF it’s full height yet. Its obviously going to be taller than the original Twins, but it’s also significantly wider as well correct?

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I mean from street level one could assume it’s half it’s height since it only has 60’ more to reach that point.

Overall yes, but for floor area, it’s taller in height by 20’ than the original North tower of the WTC. Though it is a octagon in plan, the overall plan is 367’ x 200’ wide, the original twin towers were ~209’ x 209’

But visually, one could still say that either of the individual WTC towers still looked more imposing than this buildings massing simply because they were straight vertical volumes.


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Current progress. The top section of the diamonds angling towards the center on the east and west faces have started

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Yep :+1:, technically more of the building has been built now than not.

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All of my phone pics walking around it for the first time. Hopefully I can get more later

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Nice shots, Tom.

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I love those models TK, really goes to show you the size of this one and other monsters in Midtown East

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Not my models btw

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Lol yes, they are mine @mcart, I assume you probably got confused as TK2000 posted the image edit for the height update next after my post. Took a number of days to very accurately model the WTC towers back in July. Unfortunately, it may be one of the last diagrams/models/renders I post as my licenses for the respective softwares are expiring at the years end.

I was going to post my schedule and height update diagram/chart, but Thomas posted his edit of my image before I could finish editing mines. But I will wait until the end of the year to see if anymore vertical progress is made to post it though as I know a lot of people find the timeline helpful in showing the pace of construction and the height in relation to the floor.

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Maybe time to pass the collection plate so you can keep the software license up to date?

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So basically they would have to be significantly taller to make the same degree of impact they did back then.

@5Bfilms Oh gosh, that’s a very generous thing to say but it’d be extremely onerous. Let’s just say the collection plate would need to be very large and I wouldn’t want to put that on anyone or my own conscience.

@Shane_Keena Well, that’s very subjective, because (personally) I still see them as being visually “bigger” than anything built or being planned in NYC simply because of their massing. There is still no bigger building in NYC (built nor planned) than the original Towers in terms of Floor Area at 4.3 million sqft each. Their height’s may have been eclipsed but nothing comes close to their stature.

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Oh, I agree that consistency in massing will make anything look twice as big, and it obviously makes a huge difference in efficiency having one extruded mass from the ground (or two in the case of the towers). However, with the Hudson Yards area maturing into being an integral part of midtown and midtown east getting rezoned and now seing some of the rewards coming to light? Makes you think about a couple of sites around town.

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Those renderings of the twin towers really make me like the idea of a darker color scheme, something more in line with Sears Tower.

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Is it possible that they will soon install the first glass panels?


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I don’t project any cladding to be put up until the new year, and even when is another story.

When they first started installing the facade clips in August and I thought that cladding was imminent, I didn’t realize that they would be taking so long and/or delaying putting them on as it seems they’ve been doing. They’ve only installed one full floor of clips, and a small amount on the floor above it.

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Rendering of 270 Park alongside its potential future supertall neighbours:


Photo source: mrlaugh

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Love how Vanderbilt complements the ESB. Like two runway models trying to always get in front of the camera.

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