This is a fantastic photo but looking at these makes me think this design is just a step too far. Too tall and too abstract to be such proximity to ESB. A more traditional looking one of this height would be ok, or an abstract one of like 900-1000ft, but both makes it too jarring IMO. And I am ok with pretty much every proposal ever. This lacks the grace of 175 park, one vanderbilt, or even the new 2Wtc. The blocking seems violent. It needs to taper more because that flat roof just doesn’t deserve to be in the skyline. One vanderbilt earned the right to obliterate Chrysler’s spot in the skyline by being modern and expressive, the same does not go here.
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The ESB is waning in its ability to impact the skyline, dude. Only way you can change it is build a larger art deco building than it to replace it.
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I’m probably in the minority hoping this doesn’t get built. It just seems so out of character for that location and so close to the ESB.
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I agree it’s subpar, but I don’t see any point in hoping it won’t get built when I know that it will.
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I wish it didn’t. The original design was so much smoother and cleaner, but in any case, you have to realize the ESB is by all measurements a dinosaur. The floor heights are lower than standard designs today, the cachet has worn off big time and economics have made larger buildings more of a necessity than ever before. You need an Art-Deco icon waiting in the wings to replace it. Something with taller floor heights, more square footage and a fresh intro. Crazier things have happened.
Pelli’s 15 Penn was much more appropriate for this place. A sleek, modern skyscraper with a contemporary American crown seen so often in many skyscrapers across the US, like San Francisco, Charlotte or Atlanta.
He was one of the modernist who build America and certainly had a design tradition that better fits within American urban context than Foster’s.
He has tried to replicate so many times the 425 park Avenue /Madrid tower elevations that what has offered are bland, boring, forgettable designs like 50 Hudson yards, the new 2 WTC or this one.
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Hotel Penn is on fire
Per WPitonya:
https://twitter.com/williampitonyak/…587697676?s=21
Per NYguy:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZsHH__jL0z/
https://patch.com/new-york/midtown-n…nt=midtown-nyc
Fire Breaks Out In Hotel Pennsylvania With Demolition Underway
A fire broke out Monday inside the Hotel Pennsylvania: the Midtown institution now being demolished from the inside.
Nick Garber
Feb 7, 2022
Quote:
A fire broke out Monday afternoon inside the Hotel Pennsylvania: the shuttered Midtown institution that is now undergoing demolition.
It began around 2 p.m. on the second floor of the huge, 23-story hotel building, which spans Seventh Avenue between 32nd and 33rd streets.
No injuries were immediately reported, an FDNY spokesperson said. The hotel has been free of guests since it closed to the public last year.
Photos and videos from the scene showed smoke billowing out of the building and into the neighborhood, as emergency vehicles crowded the street in front of Penn Station and onlookers watched from the sidewalk.
It took 78 firefighters more than half an hour to contain the fire, bringing it under control by 2:43 p.m., according to the FDNY. The cause will be investigated.
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Now that’s a cheap way to get rid of this building!
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Or its not going down without a fight! lol
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That was funny, luckily no one was hurt.
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^The entrance facing 7th Ave looks different in the second and third images. Is one of those from an earlier iteration of the design or are there multiple configurations of this tower currently being considered?
I’m a bit disappointed that the elevator shafts aren’t glass like some earlier renders suggested, but mostly I’m glad we have confirmation that this won’t have a 1200 ft blank wall. The north side is still pretty ugly, however. Hopefully a skyscraper will be built on the lot north of this building and obscure the view of the offset core.
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The inside, terraces, entertainment areas look absolutely amazing!
That outside is going to take getting used to though.
Also when this is built it will probably have the best views of ESB in the city.
Also those downtown views will rival ESB’s and the 30 HY
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Very pleased with the fact the rear isn’t one giant blank wall, just as I figured by looking at the floorplans. I hope this thing has some sort of decent nighttime lighting as well.
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So the height was reduced to 1200? Typical.
At 1200 ft, it would shadow the Empire State Building without making a significant impact on the skyline…people tend to forget building a 1200 footer isn’t new. It’s something they did 90 years ago. Why don’t people build taller now?
probably in response to Hochul’s review awhile back.