longside from Phase One
and down by the river only park landscapes.
Youāre either being too vague to your answer, not being specific to your answer, or not answering his question at all. Also, what does āpark landscapesā have to do with it?
Iām a megatall enthusiast but letās be realistic here. Based on @mcartās question, how would you place two megatalls on a platform that is above the train shed. Also, you would need a very strong foundation since the skyscrapers are so tall. You would also consider the zoning in those areas.
@TKDV Iām not sure if itās already answered, but is a megatall even possible in Phase II?
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Thatās a difficult question to answer because the zoning and FAR for the site has already been established. One could theoretical try to combine all the allotted areas into 2 tall towers, but that wouldnāt really be feasible for such a vast property that spans 3 Manhattan blocks. And as mcart said, the buildings are designated to be designed decreasing in height approaching the Hudson, so that would work anyways.
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at the end of the day this will be heavily residential or a big single attraction, like MSG. you arent going to see more mega office towers. maybe a single, moderate height one if any
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Thatās interesting. As I recall, a large office was planned on this site.
It seems that the demand for office space has shifted back to midtown.
I wonder if BP will switch its proposal for its 34th St tower from all office to mixed use. Although the foundation is built, I assume that they could reallocate the space.
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The single commercial tower planned for the 2nd phase was only ever zoned to be about the size of 10 Hudson Yards, this is why it would be replaced by the location of the resort (should it ever happen) due to the nature of itās commercial zoning and size.
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Thanks. I thought it was supposed to be around 2m sf.
Iād rather have less office in Phase 2.
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So would the developersā¦ There isnāt that much office planned for phase 2
Yeah, 2 million sqft is the projected amount thats been suggested in articles written about the 2nd phase, I just used Coach Tower as the closest relatively sized building in the area at 1.7-1.8 million sqft.
There certainly wonāt be any more office/commercial usage besides that or the resort if Related/Wynn get the license as the majority of Phase II has always been planned to be residential from the beginning.
There never was. One large office building was planned for the north end of the site. I guess thatās gone.
I wouldnāt say itās gone indefinitely (only because construction hasnt started yet), just on hold like the rest of the Phase until the platform is built. And then as previously mentioned, if the gaming license goes here, it would be replaced by the resort.
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Yeah probably. What about it?
You seriously have to be joking. Have you looked over the plans for phase 2? Looked at the interviews by the developers?
Only a single tower is even proposed to be office, and even that theyāre thinking of combining with a casino/resort
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I have to agree with Mcart, why are you under the impression that Phase II will be commercial when it has been known since all of Hudson Yards was planned that it would be mostly residential. Residents want to rent in Phase IIā¦ There is no absolutely comparison between Phase II and East Midtown, so stop making the comparison.
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Can we just ignore 007?
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I do.
Relatedās latest scheme is ambitious.
Casino
2M SF Office Tower
3M SF āResortā Tower
Public Park Space
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The proposal also still includes the public school and a 1 million sqft apartment tower with 329 of them being affordable housing units, unfortunately, that is a far cry from the previous amount which would have been some 3000 to possibly 4000 total units.
The casino is definitely included within the 3 million sqft resort tower, they are not separate of each other. Iād assume 1m+ is allotted to the casino out of the 3m.
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āIt will be one of the most incredible tall buildings in New York City,ā Blau gushed Friday.ā
Interestingā¦especially with how close it is to 30 HY (#7) and a proposed 418 11th Ave (possible #2).
Also besides the massively decreased apartments, it sounds better in every way to me. I love that the park is still included, which was one of my favorite parts of the original proposal
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Iād assume he was just talking about the design and not necessarily the height, but that it will be tall in general.
Though the park is still included, Iād imagine it has been downsized.