NEW YORK | Congestion Pricing

Will he bite?

Get this: A car magazine is touting the benefits of congestion pricing, especially for low-income people. Commenters are also quite supportive of the program.

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Make that $15 billion annually. Also I had to lol at them saying this was a punishment for working class commuters. I know the Dementia in Chief doesn’t know this because he’s been a billionaire since birth but working class people don’t drive in NYC. It’s too expensive to own a car or use a car in NYC. They take the subway.

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He used to ride the subway. He’s mentioned in interviews taking the F train from 179th Street.

This is possible.

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More benefits of Congestion Pricing: Less horn honking.

And and possibly boosting the economy.

Also, one thing that critics were proven wrong about: Congestion pricing isn’t diverting or causing traffic to “spill” into the other boroughs. Many critics kept parroting that the program would just increase traffic in non-tolled areas. Turns out, that isn’t the case.

If congestion pricing failed, we’d hear the news constantly critique it. Since it seems to be extremely successful, there’s nothing but positive commentary. The critics are wrong!

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Love the constant and consistent stream of positive data from this

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Critics bring this argument up for every traffic reduction policy. In the 70’s when NYC dismantled the west side elevated highway, people thought it was going to cause traffic to spill onto surrounding streets.

But cars aren’t water molecules, flowing through a pipe. More specifically, people are capable of planning their trips and changing their travel habits based on new information.

Once again, congestion pricing is objectively proven to not have the drawbacks it’s critics said it would.

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At this point the program has been active for 3 months so the “longer-term” effects are starting to show. People are getting used to it and those who wish to drive will continue to do so, but as we have seen, the reduction in traffic means a significant amount of people have stopped driving and switched to a different mode of transportation through the toll area.

And more people see the benefits so they are becoming more supportive. Can’t hate something that has tangible benefits.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-10/nyc-congestion-pricing-toll-gains-support-among-city-residents

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5186539-new-york-congestion-pricing-trump-duffy/
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/transportation/nyc-congestion-pricing-toll-gains-support-among-city-residents-poll-shows

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Sure, because there’s logic in crippling the transit system that keeps the largest city in the country running.

I’d like out of this toxic relationship.

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The MTA won’t back down.

Trump also is threatening to pull funding over crime stats.

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Hold the line!

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Do you think they’ll just keep extending their imaginary deadline every month to spare the president the embarrassment of being ignored?

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If she just agrees for one day, there will be so much immediate backlash from both dems and reps it will never be forgotten. Nothing makes people more angry than being stuck in traffic. Especially now that they’ve gotten used to not having as much.

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Probably. Or if Trump gets enough backlash, he’ll, in his usual fashion, backpedal on his decision and blame someone else for it.

Or he’ll just forget about congestion pricing altogether after extending it a bunch of times and find something else to complain about.

The decision to extend the “deadline” is also quite interesting considering the fact that there’s evidence that it’s working so he’s having a much harder time saying that it’s not working.

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Oh, please. Normal people use mostly transit. I’m sure bus riders appreciate not being stuck in excessive traffic just as much as anybody else. The program benefits everyone, wealthy or not.

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The “elite-ist” argument pisses me off to no end

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car people in NYC are the loud minority :melting_face:

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