Ok, here you have it, an asymmetrical beauty, not even a detail was valued engineered.
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Could you share a render of the original design youâre referring to? Just curious
such a strawman 
btw, donât get triggered zes
my post was just my personal opinion
oh itâs out there and Iâm sure one of these kids will do it
I just canât be bothered to figure out how to post pictures on this site
Iâm not triggered, Iâm also sharing my personal opinion 
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So I was right in this instance lol, they installed the intermediate facade beams first before the upper most ones. Still wondering about the CTU, 1 doesnt seem like nearly enough for a building this large, even though there are 3 packaged units in the overall single unit.
I also want to point out that a design change does not always equate to value engineering, one canât just say every single change is due to value engineering, it makes no sense.
Related to that, there were never any official renders released of the asymmetric version, only stacking diagrams were ever published. All existing renders of the asymmetric version were âfanâ made.
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Lol, âvalue designedâ ok bro 
Lots of âvalue designingâ going on to put a 1388â building over top of hollow ground.
This building is beautiful and well designed. Thousands of people have poured their heart out designing and building this structure just to have it panned as âvalue designedâ.
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Value engineering is not any design change, why would it be cheaper to be symmetrical? They just changed their minds, and picked a different silhouette. Thatâs not even close to the definition of value engineering
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I hope someone more knowledgeable can verify, but I imagine that the cost difference of building an asymmetrical vs symmetrical design is negligible, apart from the difference in amount of steel/fitout materials, which is not a given based on symmetry alone (either design could be larger or smaller).
In many cases, an asymmetrical design can very much be the cheaper option if itâs asymmetrical to suit the conditions of the site.
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This is mostly true, it mainly/really depends on the project and as youâve said, the difference wouldve been negligible (specifically for a company like JPMC)
The changes themselves are easily in the millions of dollars, but as I and bpc pointed out, a design change doesnât automatically mean value engineering.
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Thatâs a good point about the labour costs of the architects and engineersâs work involved in changing a design â all the more argument against calling this âvalue engineeringâ!
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I really donât care if this thing was âvalue engineered.â Itâs a great building. Surely it will become an icon if itâs not already. And seeing it in person is awesome from near or far. The details are very finely wrought and the massing draws your eyes up just as any tall building should. It makes all the big glass boxes look bad by comparison.
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Coincidental that we just get rid of 007 and then another troll comes out of the woods
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I agree the asymmetric design was far more âaesthetically pleasingâ. The final result is still beautiful Architecture.
I do believe some sort of VE took place. In this case I think it was âtime crunchâ VE - there is significant savings in time in fabrication of parts, and on-site construction by duplication of bespoke component parts.
The duplication of component parts is more significant that one may imagine: but I am only speculating.
The âcostâ is not an factor in this case of big money banking client: but meeting a âdeadlineâ to just get-it-done may have been the deciding factor for the VE decision. Which I believer it was⌠
Still an ICONIC work of architecture⌠
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Thereâs no need for dull comments like this.
And thatâs not an example of value engineering at all. What we first saw was a leaked design of an early iteration of the tower. The final design has been tested and has built for a reason. And lastly, the tower is looking just like the renderings of the official design
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The asymmetrical version would have been nice.
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