NEW YORK | 262 Fifth Ave | 860 FT | 60 FLOORS


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Still no change

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It better not be a 45 Park situation

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Oh man! that’s going to hurt more than any other stalled building

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I agree with that opinion; because I like the look of this building. If you are the opinion (as many are) this building is ugly - that too is a valid opinion. This is perfect example of a ‘normative’ statement: an opinion, an attitude, a value judgement.

However, if I say this building is Capital A architecture, or, GOOD Architecture: that is a ‘propositional’ statement - it is either true or false. As a matter of FACT.

I would defer to a subject-matter-expert in ART/Architecture on my claim this is GOOD Architecture. I do think this building looks cool, nifty, eye candy, great, etc. - even if it is not truly GOOD Architecture.

Is 262 5th Architecture with a capital A, is it GOOD architecture. I think so - but I may be wrong. :thinking:

I still like this one a lot despite all the differing beliefs/attitudes posted in this thread. It OK to like this design if it is not perfect…IMHO. :wink:

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I agree, but I’m holding my judgement until the facade progresses to the roof, because that can easily make or break this building.

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Yes, the complete facade remains to be seen.

Pardon my pontificating on the subject of Fact vs. Opinion. I have come to accept the claim by many that this building is not technically (factually) Good Architectural Design - but I am still a big fan.

The facade, and overall structure, is sufficiently complete for me to say: this one is a Beauty. :star_struck:

Cheers.

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I’m wondering if there is a cash flow issue.

supply chain issues are common with facade panels. They had enough capital to top off the building, they should have had enough to finish construction. Not that we don’t have two glaring examples of funding shortfalls in the Seaport Tower and 45 Park Place, but the former had big time construction issues and the latter’s developer wanted to go about things in accordance with their religious beliefs, so those have an explanation.

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Yes, Supply chain issues seems the most likely conclusion.

Some time ago, Arctic Camel posted this about “the long and meticulous procedure” - most likely this is simply a back-order issue on these ‘carefully crafted’ building blocks.

A scroll back on this thread will reaval all the details… :star_struck:

[quote=“arctic_camel, post:830, topic:1777”]

EXCERPT -
What are the bricks?
These are architectural building blocks in extruded aluminum that, once cut and assembled on the frames, will give the building a unique charm.

To achieve a result of such aesthetic value, a long and meticulous procedure is followed that includes cutting, sorting, control and assembly steps carried out in sequence by many people to prevent possible errors.

It’s possible that it could be a supply chain issue, but that would be contrary to the fact that there are pallets of panels just waiting at the base of the tower.

The crane is still moving though.

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Which is why I wonder about sales.

From before it even began construction, this one had all the hallmarks of the kind of development that would stall before completion… we’ll see

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Been waiting for the BMU to show up, may have been there when I was at Edge last weekend but haven’t gotten around to looking at the photos I took since then. I’m still wondering where all the other mechanical equipment is going.

But from the looks of the BMU, it’s in it’s down position, so it will be sticking out past the top of the building all the time.

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I wish we could do a better job concealing those rooftop Building Maintenance Units. I know this is a whole different context: but just ‘wishing’ here…and Sharing some Information.

Here is a video showing a concealed BMU…enjoy.

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I think here it would’ve been inevitable to have hidden it completely since they were going for a (almost) knife edge bezel to the crown opening, so they couldnt have really extended a parapet upward.

There’s lots of examples where the BMU is simply just hidden behind a taller crown/parapet, but thats really just up to the Architect/Developer whether they care if the BMU is visible.

Sometimes in other instances the building can’t be raised further in height so the BMU just has to remain visible since it is not counted in zoning figures.

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the “brick” texture looks good in the sun - makes for a great contrast against the smooth glass

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The glory hole building.

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