Yeah I was just thinking the other day, if we did have view corridors, this is one of the iconic views I’d prioritize.
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Just based off a quick glance I don’t believe this tower would be directly infront of the ESB, but it would unfortunately appear within it’s immediate right frame and “destroy” it’s silhouette, this is including the height cut.
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@rgarri4 could you please show us some renders of the 860 foot height?
Even before asking, I can already say the new height will still mess with the view of the ESB based on perspectives. The height cut is only useful when located far from the ESB, being close to it won’t make a difference (IE. The Flatiron building view will still be fully obstructed).
But like I said way before, I think your hang-up with this and the ESB is over exaggerated, there are still numerous locations in the city where one can view the majority massing of the ESB uninterrupted. It’s not the end of the world, only for that the design is not good.
This building kind of brings to mind the ugly Montparnasse tower in Paris. Though this is not going to be nearly as thick, it’ll be taller and stick out like a sore thumb where it’s currently being built.
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Considering the height cut, I don’t see it sticking out that much, it’s ugly sure, but it’s not going to stick out because there are also other towers sparsely spread out around the ESB like Madison House at 805’ 2 blocks over and even further south buildings like Madison Square Park Tower at 778’.
This is not the only “tall” building in the area in front of the ESB and people should stop viewing it as such, especially since the height cut.
Even though we don’t know the design of it, I don’t see nearly the same amount of commotion being brought up about 3 W 29th St considering it’s dead center in line with the ESB and is closer than this one by a block.
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There isn’t discussion for 3 W 29 because there isn’t so much news on it right now.
262 5th is a hot topic because it is located directly on 5th Avenue, in line with the Empire State Building. Other buildings in NoMad are to the left or right of the Empire State Building. In my opinion, they actually make the Empire State Building look better. But 262 will block certain sight angles that otherwise have remain untouched for 91 years.
And I respect your opinion, because it’s only an opinion. It’s not a hot topic, it’s just being made into one that shouldn’t be one. It’s location on 5th has nothing to do with it, and, parallel to the avenues it’s definitely not in line with the ESB, it “is” to the right of it because of the ESB’s tiered massing. It’s barely even noticeable now considering it used to be 2 crowns taller.
Really the whole discussion is about sightlines that don’t exist, it doesn’t matter how long they’ve existed, they were never protected sightlines, and most of them were never intentional if not all of them just like the 260 South St/Manhattan Bridge/ESB issue. That same revolving argument about sightlines can be applied to every single new development in the city no matter the building at the focal point or time frame.
It has much less effect than it used to
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I really like your city model including the model of this tower! 
This is my opinion but I find this tower to be a nice addition to the area.
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Not the topic being talked about, but your model is amazing
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Could you please post a new angle looking from Brooklyn with the shorter height?
Thank you @NewYorkCity76 and @mcart, still has a long way to go 
@bmosborne is there a particular part of Brooklyn or did you mean from the Brooklyn Bridge?
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This is midspan from the Brooklyn Bridge. Factoring in that my model is still only currently of everything north of 26th St (and south of 59th St), there would be other towers that would come into view closer to MSP.
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Funny how for decades this was a forgotten little corner of Manhattan.
To be completely honest, I would rather have this built at 1000 feet or not at all. Anything in between doesn’t seem worth it to me, because it covers or partly covers the ESB anyway. If it were a supertall, at least New York gains something. At 860 feet, it doesn’t add much to anything.
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Oh nice. Looks so much better shorter.
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860 feet will show up on the skyline.
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@TKDV Apologies for pinging you
Is the current height for this tower confirmed (860 ft)? Some sites still say that it’s still a supertall at 1,000 ft.
Per Hudson11 on SSC:
“the source was a document for a parking garage, not the tower itself. Could be erroneous. We’ll see. There is some discrepency, but CTBUH, the Architect on Record and the Design Architect all have it being at least 1000’.”
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The CTBUH’s figure comes from the Department of Buildings filing: https://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/…id=2&passjobnumber=122874906&passdocnumber=01
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I won’t argue with other members/entities factual information as to their reasoning and sources as nothing in particular has really been “released” officially with the concurrent changes but for the diagram shown in the parking garage modifications/addition that shows the building as being 860’.
All that being said, developers, architects and the CTBUH don’t always change things immediately when changes to figures are made (the 2 former by a lot). I would trust the 863’ height as that is the most recent posting made by the FAA for the height of the building and the crane at 1004’ in a filing made 2 weeks ago, which aligns with the parking garage amendment which would have include the latest version of what is being built above ground. All heights have to be addressed/filed with the FAA.
TL:DR The FAA says the building height is 863’ and that corroborates with what the recent parking garage diagram shows.
Also, no need to apologize for the tag,
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