I didnt see a thread for this complex here yet. It had an article in new york yimby a while back though.
I took these pics on july 8th. You can see that the old pasta factory building was still about halfway into demo.
As of today, the building is completely gone. There is just a huge mountain of ruble that they are going through and turning most of the concrete from the building into gravel. In the background you can see parts of wtc, url and goldman jc. This complex will be nice I think. Great views of all of nyc and jc and only a couple blocks to the journal sq PATH station.
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A few new renderings here.
As of 2 weeks ago the lot looked as it did in the last update. Hope they start soon, though.
I can confirm that, as of this morning, there’s still no activity on site. I live a couple of blocks away.
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Still nothing going on. But this shows the nice views the residents will have of downtown jc and nyc.
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Its good that JC is seeing this 1000+ unit projects. I’ll be curious to see the new population estimates coming out in a couple of weeks. For JC, and for NYC.
For sub-county incorporated places, intercensal estimates will not come out until May. The estimates coming out this month are for counties and parishes. So we will find out estimates for each NYC borough but not for Jersey City alone.
From July 1, 2015 to July 1, 2016, Hudson County population estimate increased from 673,765 to 677,983, the largest numeric increase of any NJ county (even though Hudson is the fourth-largest county by population) and the second-largest percentage-wise increase of any NJ county (after Ocean County, whose Census estimate grew at a slightly higher rate).
All-time high from 1930: 690,730 people.
In the past few days some construction materials and a construction trailer have been delivered to this site.
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I’ve seen trucks coming out before too. Photos by Oron_Zchut This might be starting. Also, this whole area near Journal Square is getting immense amounts of low-mid rise developments. I should start a topic just to document it here
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Well, nothing’s been moving here for the last two years. One part of the site has been used for staging for the nearby 134 Baldwin Ave. With that wrapping up, that should no longer be the case.
However…when I passed by here yesterday, there was an excavator working on a pile of dirt (opposite side from the staging area). This probably doesn’t mean much, but it’s the first sign of movement in a few years.
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Looks like there’s a new plan. Instead of two 25-story towers and two 7-story buildings, the new plan calls for six 27-story towers and a 20-story tower. The unit count has increased from 980 to 2,411.
The Applicant is seeking Preliminary Site Plan Approval to construct a multi-phased mixed-use development project utilizing the Whole Block Provision and Office Space Bonus as set forth in the Journal Square 2060 Redevelopment Plan (the “Project”)
The Project consists of seven (7) mixed-use Tower on a Base structures of varying stories and heights, (Towers 1-6 at 27 stories, varying in height from 286’8” to 293’ and Tower 7 at 20 stories with a height of 219’8”), each Tower contains residential dwelling units as set forth in the table below and office use. The Applicant also proposes ground floor commercial retail space, a total of 658 parking spaces (630 within an underground parking garage structure and 28 spaces at basement level), green roof, extensive streetscape, sidewalk and other site improvements.
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The plan for this site could get larger due to a law that was recently passed–it increases heights on mixed-income developments in the 25+ story zones of Journal Square by up to 20 floors in exchange for income-restricted housing requirements. I came across this article referencing this development, but what is being said here by Lamm is a bald-faced lie:
Chris Lamm, the JSQCA’s vice president and chairman of its Construction and Planning Committee, said there is a preliminary proposal for the redevelopment of the former Muller Pasta factory along Baldwin Avenue. The proposed development would create more than 2,400 new units.
“This property would be exempt if the City Council adopts the narrow version of the proposal. That represents a potential loss of 250 to 300 affordable housing units,” said Lamm, a resident of the Hilltop area. He also noted that there are other similar large development sites within District 4 that would City also escape the requirements if this area remains exempted from the new law.
The ordinance does in fact cover this site, since it utilizes the Whole-Block Bonus Provision of the redevelopment plan. The speaker is a professional planner and knows better. Here is the language in the ordinance:
Source:Misinformation article
Source:City ordinance
Anyway, since the site is covered by this new law, it can now apply for the new extra height if it wants to, and could now potentially go 20 stories higher– as high as 47 stories–if the economics make sense. Will be curious to see if they revise their plans or not.
The site is so expensive to build out (they have to build sewers, streets, and deal with the steep slope of the cliff). As a result, they haven’t been able to get financing yet despite trying for 8 years. It’s unclear how new income-restricted housing obligations and added height would improve or hurt the viability of the project. Iit’s anybody’s guess what will happen, but what’s clear is they have options.
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The city made them remove an entire tower from the plans. Now 2,088 apartments and 6 27-story towers.
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Honestly…not great. No retail, poor street activation and very Corbusier style towers in a concrete park.
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