Well on that subject, decreasing the available transportation (which is currently only vehicular) to that particular site wouldnt resolve that issue. If anything involving transport needs to be addressed, it’s the subway.
@lowkeylion no one said anything about his contributions or time on the forums, you did.
I think something in this region is plausible, compared to the height of Encore Las Vegas, which has 2034 rooms and is 631’ compared against W/R’s 1300 room proposal, but it is an extremely wide building. It all depends how the rooms are laid out, whether around a central core or lined horizontally (like a number of Las Vegas type builds.)
That’s a fair point, but I don’t think they would’ve released their intentions with thoughts of majorly changing it, whether they get the license or not. I don’t see this as playing a major factor in any of the developers making huge changes to their plans, as it pertains to those who have said what their plans are.
1300 rooms is a lot for a NYC hotel (comparatively) and it would complicate things to add a different function build on top of a hotel tower, making it a mixed-use residential project.
That’s a possibility, but generally, if condos are made part of the plan, I don’t see them as being in the same building as the hotel.
@mcart the largest hotels in the US are almost all found in Las Vegas, the largest of them being the Venetian and Palazzo with 7092 rooms jointly, the latter having 4049 rooms. Comparatively, the largest hotels in NYC are the Marriott Marquis and NY Hilton Midtown, which both have over 1900 rooms.
Which is interesting. Is it just because of the size of the buildings, which can’t reasonably be put into Manhattan? Or is it just the number of hotels around NYC that means a single hotel with a huge number of rooms isn’t needed or wanted by developers?
I do see it as a size (in terms of available land) issue. As one also has to take into account that NYC hotel rooms are also very small compared to the average hotel room, they are giant in Las Vegas even when not suites, so that makes the comparison even more off-balanced.
It is difficult to really answer that question because as you’ve said, NYC enjoys sprouting little and big hotels here and there, but no where on the level of the big hotels that it does have, like the Marquis, Hilton Midtown, Sheraton, or former Grand Hyatt. I personally wouldn’t see the need for NYC to have a giant hotel building like those in Las Vegas because the need is evenly spread out, the hotels in LV are large because of their casino’s and because they are (for the most part) the only place to stay.
@007 I don’t even understand what you said so no comment
@mcart, I put this together to show you the level of extremely varying sizes of the top 10 largest hotels in the city. The sizes of the rooms themselves are what determines how big these buildings are. But just to put into perspective of line up but not scale, the Hudson Yards proposal would end up in 6th place, but it’s almost definite that it would be more relatable in size to the first three, again, determinant on how big the rooms are.
The towers in the back are The Palazzo LV, Encore LV, and Wynn LV
Ok, now I see how it works. I knew the wings on the north and south has units, but I couldn’t see how it worked because I thought they were too thin. But each wing is one row of many units, as the main halls of each wing are towards the internal void. Units are located in the west face, and all are easily accessible by the large elevator in the void. The setup seems very awesome, but it would be nice if the void could be used to extend space. And the ONLY revolving restaurant in NYC…awesome