NEW YORK | Mackensens Unofficial Skyscraper Projects

Cross-section and a detailed drawing of the sloping facade panels which are attached to the ceiling (floor).


A facade view of the low-rise building with 5 floor and roof park.

A view of the Roof Park where the park at the twin towers are for office workers only (meeting). If you miss the bridge, it is located at the level of the 2nd floor, where the entrance to the skydeck is. The Main Office entrance is located on the opposite side of the building on the 1st floor.

I am planning a larger version of the Roof- Park. More ideas about the PABT redevelopment I have but not yet on paper this may still take a little. :slightly_smiling_face:

The massive low-rise building can be built without the Sky High Complex.

I think this here is the 4 th proposal for the PABT redevelopment. For the competition I just need the link. (ESC Site 2A 2B)

The entrance to Sky High as official (preliminary) drawings with hydraulic retractable facade elements. Hydraulic facade elements I have planned that first time the River Side Plaza.

if you post these drawings in other topics in the Yimby forum or on SSP you have to give this credit:

Drawn and Concept by : Miss Mackensen

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New York needs a megatall.

PABT 3000 feet tall ???

  1. Where did you pull that number from?
  2. What does that have to do with Mackensens project?
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I think 3000 feet tall skyscraper.

  1. This has nothing to do with Mackensen’s project whatsoever unless the design somehow got accepted (which would be cool to see).

  2. Where did you see 3,000 ft? Because you may be mistaken that number as in 3,000,000, which is the office square ft, not the height.

  3. Even if it’s not 3,000 ft, we might have a potential for a megatall or at least a high-end supertall (around 1600-1800 ft).

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Yes it was accepted

2000 feet tall

Where is your source? @Mackensen isn’t officially known as an architect (which would be nice) and you should do a little more research before posting…mostly all of your posts

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Indeed that is what CAD stands for, but it’s certainly not just used for CNC related jobs. AutoCAD was the first CAD program developed for PCs and is still used by Architecture firms around the world.

I certainly do have more renders, though I’ve chosen not to publish them.

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When, how, what, where?? Need sources as TK2000 mentioned

I just wouldn’t comment, like mcart said, it has nothing to do with Mackensen’s thread objective.

And the site wouldn’t even be able to support a viable 3000’ tower without sacrificing the floor plate sizes, which the developers/PA will definitely not do. Also considering if the floor plates were just calculated upon the 3 million sqft figure mentioned in the graph as a simple box tower, it wouldn’t even surpass 700’ in height much less 3000’.

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A megatall would still be nice, but I agree, that the site may not be able to support a megatall that is 3,000 (which is very high). Besides, I just realized that the FAA won’t even allow structures above 2,000 ft, unless a “miracle” happens

That’s just the national set line. It would be relatively easy to get approvals from the FAA for that, especially for a 2,000 ft tower in Midtown.

Especially compared to all the other approvals they need.

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Ah, interesting. So I guess technically there’s no height limit in the U.S., aside from the “aircraft aviation reasons”

Thank you @TK2000 kind words and also to all others who have a great interest in my concept.
No, I am not an architect but just a simple private historian with a collection on the construction and architecture of skyscrapers in U.S. cities (from New York to San Francisco). All my concepts are buildable and well thought out. The only thing I want with this topic is that I can participate in an architecture competition with the Sky High Tower.

Yes, if I get official news about it to the actual proposal then you will hear it from me. You can continue to talk about a 3000 feet skyscraper, I also have a concept.

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There is supposedly a skyscraper planned for the site of 641 8th Ave. would it be possible to plan this as a hotel with the associated City Casino?

I myself am still working on a proposal but it may look something like this.

https://www.emporis.de/buildings/map#c=40.758518,-73.997448&z=18

Site for two very tally supertalls.

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While a hotel is still considered to be within the scope of commercial zoning, the site you are referencing, the site of the existing PABT structure, where the proposed towers 1 and 2 will stand are zoned specifically for office based commercial space.

Even if it were to be zoned specifically for a hotel, either of the buildings would be immensely downsized from their 3 and 2 million sqft figures as a hotel of that size would be unimaginable in NY. The current largest hotel in NYC is the Hilton Midtown (1932 rooms) and the whole of the building is only 1.45 million sqft and under 500’ tall.

As for your second map image, I am assuming you are referencing the block where the Lincoln tunnel is? This is where Towers 3 & 4 would rise. The possibility of Tower 4 being a supertall is likely but still on the lower end of the supertall spectrum, but Tower 3 not so much since it is a mixed-use residential and office, and will probably be about 700,000 sqft.

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Thanks for your answer :+1:

Would it be possible to design and build a or two megatall with a total height of 750 meters with a valid FAR?

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The general underlying far for the PABT site is 15, but there were probably added bonus FAR and air rights added to the site to bring the total to the current 5 million sqft given in the FEIS chart for the Penn Station Development (Site 1 and 2 added).

Taking Site 1 at 3 million sqft as an example, the International Commerce Center in HK is slightly under 3 million sqft but is only 1588 ft tall. Given that the footprint of the ICC would conform to the normal width of a NYC block, other zoning constraints would not allow the building to rise straight up from the footprint. Would it be possible to build one megatall? It’s possible but certainly not 2 since Site 2 is only zoned 2 million sqft. But there are still a plethora of other factors going into the zoning that would and wouldn’t allow a megatall.

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Oh how I would love to see a 750 M + building here. Right on top of the transit building by Archilliers, connecting Times Square, the PABT, Javits and HY (and by extension Penn Station Area) all with the highline through a connection with the roof on top of the PABT.

I can dream. Hopefully it becomes more than that.

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