omg yes, but at least like 50% larger than the one in LV just because
@NewYorkCity76 they are wide, wider than the typical NYC block length of 800â. But the majority of them would never fit within the zoning of Phase II because it isnât zoned like one huge lot, itâs still zoned as 3 individual blocks. So whatever is built will still have to be built/designed according to that zoning.
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Could someone make a mass chart about the casino?
No, because no information has come out about it, massings canât be made with 0 (actually) information.
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I mean I guess? Iâd like a building that doesnât fit in Hudson Yards. (A part of the reason I do like 418 11th, at least the design weâve been shown)
Plus Grand Lisboa looks amazing.
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And Iâll respect your opinion lol. 418 11th Ave looks like a normal building for the most part in the aspect that there are buildings that cantilever and the facade isnât really âthatâ wild. So it does fit in like any other building in that sense.
In my view I see a difference in a building not fitting in vs being different (but still fitting in.) Grand Lisboa doesnât/wouldnt fit in because itâs kitschy (the podium is some egg shaped thing). 418 is an example of the opposite, just as a number of new highrises along the highline are, they look different than the normal context but still fit in. Iâd welcome that.
Thanks for taking that convo here. 
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Perfect! that is what should be built there. 
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Itâs funny because NYNY LV is approximately the same size as all of Phase II.
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That âsoundsâ like good news, even if this site isnât chosen as one of the locations Iâd still like to see what Related/Wynn put together.
@007 you donât have to reply to the last person in a thread to reply, just reply to the thread, otherwise people get notifications that arenât directed at them.
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Indeed, it is sort of good news based on those articles. Iâm curious, if they still choose the Hudson Yards Phase II site for the casino, do you think the original Hudson Yards Phase II plan would be altered a little?
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I think that all just really depends on how large Related/Wynn want the casino to be (in terms of area coverage and not necessarily floor area).
If the resort is bound to the area/location where the âWest Towerâ is supposed to be (the only commercial lot in Phase II) then no, I wouldnât particularly expect the other apartments/school to be altered. But if itâs allowed to take up more land then yeah, things may be moved around a bit. If that were the case and Related wanted to keep the number of proposed apartments currently planned for they could add more apartments to the other buildings.
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Ah okay, makes sense.
Regardless of how big itâs going to be, Iâm looking forward to see the designs of it. Hopefully it wonât be on hold or turn out to be another 418 11th Avenue situation (the governor putting it on hold) 
Egh, I mean whatâs going on at 418 11th Ave would be considered a very different situation to if this resort was put on hold for some reason, but Gov Hochul has been very supportive of NYC getting more gambling licenses. Otherwise, since itâs a private development and only the license itself is controlled by the city (the state just regulates gambling), the government/nor the state really has a say in the development so I wouldnât see it ever being put on hold.
418 11th Ave is on state owned land, and doesnât even have a developer still, and the only reason it is on hold is due to the affordable housing question. Aspects of Phase IIâs land are owned by the state (like the Gateway tunnels and the overall railyard, etc) but the platform and air rights already belong to Related, so the state doesnât have a say in what goes up anymore. But of course, the platform would have to be built first to even build anything.
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Interesting, so it shouldnât (or hopefully) have any problems for this casino to go up, since itâs private owned. But I agree with what you said, the platform above the LIRR yard has to be built and covered first before anything rises.
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I added the conceptual masses of the current plan for Phase II to my model, the heights are only based off of the heights as they appear in older renders of Phase II, so they may not be correct/accurate to the true massing heights, but the plan dimensions are correct as based on plan renders and zoning plans.
The tallest of the towers is the commercial âWestâ Tower, if the resort is confined to any part of Phase II and not allowed to be built with a larger lot area, itâs assumed that it would occupy that site.
I would like to point out that these are not the final designs and are only based off of zoning plans.
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Great job! Those models does add some density to it.
I would think that anyone who purchased a multimillion dollar condo in 35 or 15 Hudson Yards would not be happy with a casino as a neighbor across the street. The area will certainly become a zoo at all hours, day and night.
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The best place for a casino
You have a million $ apartment and in the casino you can earn several million $$.
Hudson Yards thus earns more money $$$.