I would limit Stache’s statement to Midtown certainly, perhaps not the whole city.
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@TK2000 It’s not that new construction isn’t up to snuff, it’s that all the great pre-war buildings, say 1880-1940 ( pedestrian though they may be) bring so much in the way of texture and detail to the street level experience that we lament their passing, especially when replaced by soulless junk.
As for the Lantern House and Solar Carve, the were built on top of, what, a parking lot and a meatpacking warehouse? Obviously we have no beef w/either of those.
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Not really feasible in this case most likely (the existing structure is too big), but would facade preservation with modern structures built on top or behind alleviate this?
The main thing is people want bigger windows these days.
Total Building Square Footage: 699,076
High-Rise Determination (BC 202) - What is the distance between the highest occupied floor and the lowest level of fire department vehicular access? 977.17 Feet
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Highest occupied floor height is seperate from total height, right?
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Yes. This does not include the total height.
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yay so we might be getting an other super tall
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I’ve already seen similar information from the fire department regarding the maximum number of stories in the 418 11th Ave. thread on SSP. NYguy posted there that the two-tower project is supposed to be 748 and 387 feet tall, respectively.
So the shorter tower at HDSN is supposed to be 40 stories tall? Not 24 stories as stated—we’ll find out.
But hopefully this next supertall will get an attractive facade and won’t end up as a blue glass box like this .
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isn’t it supposed to be taller than One57? or it’s simply the perspective?
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A relatively minor thing, but if the base contains a new subway station entry within the building, why is there still an elevator on the sidewalk?
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With the perspective in that rendering it’s absolutely below 1,000 feet
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Here’s my guess. The elevator is still there for ADA and the other entrance will be stairs/escelators.
The better approach would be to tuck it all together. No doubt this is the MTA thinking it will look bad if they replace an elevator access point so soon after completing it. Maybe they’ll change the plan once construction gets nearer.
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Yes probably better but this was no doubt decided when building plans got approved.
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The elevator is not going to suddenly be incorporated into the building footprint just because time passes. It is an incredible waste to remove a 5 year old elevator just to incorporate it into a building.
That is also currently the only accessible method to get into the 57th St station, its already going to be difficult to use it once the construction sidewalk goes up, not to mention that the configuration at the subway mezzanine level possibly would not have allowed for an elevator in the footprint of the building. That’s why any of the new sidewalk elevators are typically located where they are in relation to the subway entrance stairs.
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