Repost? All I can find is more of this:
Which is not exactly space needle material
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I didn’t see any new rendering. I saw some pics of the mast, and some measurements (which won’t be final) but no new renderings. (or I shouldn’t say new, because there haven’t been any renderings at all. At least official ones)
Fingers crossed for some sort of tulip up top 
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That’s it. I love that.
If this is what they are using for wind testing then don’t expect the form to change at all. Unless these are of an old design. Call it a “mast only” all you want but this is the current form until it changes.
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Per NYguy:
Extell Plans Hotel Tower at 740 Eighth Avenue (therealdeal.com)
Extell plans Theater District hotel, avoiding special permit
BY KATHRYN BRENZEL
JAN 13, 2022
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When the City Council approved new restrictions on hotel development, it all but ensured that Gary Barnett’s Midtown project would remain unscathed.
Barnett’s Extell Development last week received permits for a more than 541,000-square-foot, 1,350-key hotel tower at 740 Eighth Avenue in the Theater Subdistrict, an area in which certain projects are exempt from the recently enacted requirement that developers must obtain a special permit for new hotels.
“We wanted to do an office building at 740 8th Ave but there were holdouts on 8th Ave that wouldn’t sell for a reasonable price,” an Extell spokesperson said. “The project was grandfathered since we were far along with the hotel, as were other hotel projects around the city.”
In December, the City Council approved a zoning text amendment that requires developers to obtain special permits to construct new hotels or expand existing ones by at least 20 percent. The measure exempted hotels that shelter homeless individuals and grandfathered in projects approved by the DOB before the City Council’s vote.
Applications filed prior to the City Council vote that were not approved by the DOB have a year to get their new building or foundation permits approved in order to be exempted.
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The measure also allowed certain new hotels in the Theater Subdistrict to avoid the requirement. Developers can keep filing plans for hotels in the subdistrict as long as they are located on lots of at least 20,000 square feet and at least half of the space is clear of any buildings or otherwise mostly vacant, as is the case with most of the lots in Extell’s assemblage.
The subdistrict is defined as an area bounded by Eighth Avenue to the west and Sixth Avenue to the east, between West 40th and West 57th streets. Given the lot specifications and Extell’s assemblage at the district’s core, Barnett’s firm is a major beneficiary of the carveout.
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Extell has been piecing together the development site since 2014, and a critical chunk of it was acquired this past summer. The developer bought two properties at 738 and 740 Eighth Avenue, along development rights, for $51 million, paving the way for a development exceeding 500,000 square feet. Extell had previously acquired part of the site from Related Companies, which had also planned an office building there, according to Pincus Co. Extell has spent at least $186 million assembling the 11 lots over the past seven years.
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A few weeks after the City Council approved the text amendment, Extell filed plans for a supertall at 570 Fifth Avenue in the nearby Diamond District. The developer has put forward two options for the site: A 1.5 million-square-foot office project or a 1.4 million-square-foot residential and hotel tower. The latter will require a special permit for hotel use, but the project will require other approvals either way, including two other special permits as well as a text amendment.
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Fingers crossed the design turns out decent
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I don’t expect it to be amazing, but a lot better than the massing looks. Probably a glass, oval shaped observation deck on top of the building, it should look fine. Now what I’m really interested in is what the neck of the observation deck is going to look like, it better not be an uncovered concrete wall.
I didn’t read this in full, but is there any reason to assume that the design differs from the insane mass model?
Lots of good images here
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I’m just hoping the slender sections above the middle and top is not the core. If that’s all bare concrete then I won’t like that
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Is this seriously going to get built?
This is the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Can’t they make it taller than just 1100? That’s not really tall enough to be an observation tower. CN tower is 1815 ft…
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Exposed cores should be legally banned in the zoning laws: A finished facade must be present on all surfaces of a building which are not directly facing a lot line.
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I agree, but would take it even further. Even on a lot line, any vertical surface above, say, 100’ that is exposed at the time of construction should have a façade of some sort. It could be fake, just disguising the core, like 220 CPS; but not blank concrete or stucco.
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Reminds me of an old joke–two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible. The other one says, “Yeah, I know; and such small portions!”
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Per NYguy:
ell permitted for 1,350-key hotel at Times Square site where 194K sf office was originally planned
January 10, 2022
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Gary Barnett’s Extell Development, on January 7, received a permit for construction of a 541,428-square-foot hotel building with 1,350 rooms at 740 Eighth Avenue in Times Square. The owner representative in the filing was David Rothstein of Extell.
Back in June of 2020 the developer filed plans for a 164-foot tall, 10-story, 194,552-square-foot office building at the site.
The updated plans call for the construction of a 1,120-foot tall, 51-story hotel.
The developer uploaded zoning schematics of the project in November of this past year.
The project is described in the filings as: construction of a new building.
Per the plans, the ground floor of the building will have a lobby, multiple retail spaces, lounges, a deck, and office. The second floor will have additional retail space. The third floor will have amenity space, a business center, and terraces. The fourth floor will have a gym and spa. Floors six through 21 and 23 through 31 will each have 54 hotel rooms per floor. The 33rd floor will have a bar and kitchen. The 34th floor will have a bar and outdoor pool, along with a deck. Floors 35 through 51 will have several FDNY landing spaces, as well as observation decks on floors 38 through 40 and 49 through 51.
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#12 on the proposed list.
This one has a very weird shape. But that’s just the massing. The final decision will come when the renderings come out and we see the facade and everything to go with it.
I wonder how this will do, I’m sure it will be fine but it will have to come heavily will One Times Square. However it should be okay because it offers a vastly different viewpoint (and both locations will be overun with tourists anyway regardless).
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