Comparing to earlier renders, the spires are deleted in the most recent which accounts for at least some of the shortening. Its also possible Ken G just wanted wanted fewer, larger floors.
Very nice but yet again a design for a tower we all know wonât actually have all those trees when complete.
I think they tend to do it just to highlight the idea of open space with the terraces and to draw the eye to it. Essentially the potential as an open-exposed area. Just in general with other developments with terraces. Sort of an advertising trick.
Very nice. It reminds me of some of the rough, alternative designs for 270 Park that Atchain posted. They had setbacks only on one side like this appears to have.
The good news is that this indicates that Citadel is very serious about this project. Itâs not just hypocritical.
2032 is gonna be a looooong time to wait but it will be so worth it.
This tower and 175 Park will be THE PREMIUM towers in NY, displacing the GM BUilding and 9 W 57th from their long-held purchases.
Outside of other early opinions, Iâm much happier with this new iteration than the last (barring what the back looks like since itâs still probably the core, which is the slightest visible). Has a much more cohesive massing and doesnât look like a bunch of different shapes put together, just all rectangular prisms. The displacement of the larger terraces instead of the smaller more frequent side terraces in the first iteration makes this design less cluttered.
The height is still practically the same to me since the two spires were negligible and looked like an afterthought.
Ill see if I can make a diagram based on the one render and educated guesses.
I honestly think the west side will still have a black wall, but more glass on the corners of the face. Also if those channels going up and down the whole towerâŚfor elevatorsâŚthen they ripped my concept from the mirrored 350 Park design
I was going to say that the channels on the south facade appear to be for elevators. If so, thereâs no reason to believe that the west facade is blank particularly since it would preclude valuable Hudson River views.
The area of the side volumes as they appear in the render are too narrow for all the elevators and due to that would be an unusual waste of space to separate elevators even if more prominent elevators from the main cores, these are probably fire stairs like the side stripes at Penn 15 and would be more understanding than elevators.
The overall core is still visible on the west face, its just been covered slightly on the sides instead of being barren on the south and north faces.
Oof this went from interesting to boring. I was really looking forward to the double spire after getting robbed of 4 of them from 3WTC.
It just seems low-effort/rehashing and disappointing from Foster.
I want to point out something seemingly very important as Iâve been working on the diagram, itâs clear that the 51 floor and 7 terrace figure is extremely inaccurate, only the 1350â figure is accurate. Whoever told the press that the building would have 51 floors and 7 terraces is only counting what is visible on the render, which shows 51 floors and 7 terraces, but does not show the entirety of the building, which kind of sounds dumbfound that someone thought the building just ended at the bottom of the render.
I think this looks spectacular.
Further, look what weâre getting: yet another supertall office tower. American cities are struggling to build 20 story office towers on huge, ugly parking podiums.
The Financial Capital of the World, by contrast, is pumping out spectacular supertalls with ease. If this were proposed for Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, SF, Miami, etc., theyâd think that theyâve suddenly arrived.
Thank you, Mr. Griffen!
Agreed. I donât think the new design is bad per say, itâs just boring in comparison to the old renders. Especially because of how good the previous renders were, with my only problem being the back really
Okay but this isnât just another American city. If this was proposed in my states capital city that would be amazing, but it wasnât. It was proposed in NYC
Thereâs nothing boring about a 1,350â tall tower with tons of setbacks and a very unique top.
Also, every Foster building uses the absolute best materials.
This building will be yet another icon in the skyline of the greatest city in the world. Thereâs universal agreement that places like Chicago, SF, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, etc. are so many tiers below NY. NY is Nietzscheâs city; itâs the âUber Cityâ!
