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you really aren’t grasping what I’m saying are you

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Lets dissect your post then

Where are any of the things you have laid out?

and just leaving panels like how I said looking like they were just loosely hammered on the walls and ceilings is like the construction workers saying “hey I’m gonna just slap those on that wall and come back by and do it correctly in a few months”

let me go get some pictures…

You’ve only specified one location in the lobby where wood is being used, and no wood is being used in the finished lobby, like I said before, you are thinking that construction related things are the finished thing, and they are not.


see the rusted bolts?
or the spray painted beams?

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or the wood? that’s being used outside and inside


or the uneven layout of theses panels? Not to mention the fact that their also DENTED

AND JUST LIKE I SAID ESPECIALLY IN THE LOBBY

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dude the wood is temporary and those arent the final panels, chill out.

(I stand corrected on the “wood” per TKDV’s below comment)

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I dont see any “rusted bolts” what I see is the spray on fireproofing not covering structural connections that will be disturbed later so they were skipped over, that is the natural color of steel.

Who cares if things are spray painted, they wont be hand painted with a brush, those columns are “spray painted” with a rust proof coating and fireproofing, there’s nothing wrong that they are spray painted.

That is not wood, that is mineral wool insulation, none of the stuff that you are saying is wood is wood, its all insulation.

Its nearly impossible for cladding to not be dinged up during transportation or at the construction site, that is the underlayment structure of the cladding, it will be covered by the finish panels, who cares if its dinged up underneath in the LOBBY.

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yeah you’re right they are just going to add a nice polished layer over those panels my bad

yay! finally someone made a decent point you win

so, now I know I was wrong and wasn’t just being accused of it
and, now I know what appeared to be rust wasn’t and what I thought was wood, also wasn’t

so thanks for the much needed insight TKDV

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All I see are very normal construction techniques for any building. Everything you’re pointing out will be covered up when it’s done, (or is temporary, but I think everything you listed will be covered.)

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thanks as well, I just need to do more research.

I remember there were some similar things during the construction of 53W53, everything was temporary, it’s the same with this one.

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I remember seeing 53W53 wondering if they’d really make a sleek supertall just to slap some off-colored windows and say it’s finished (as this shot by @5Bfilms shows).

As for the lighting on all these supertalls, well… that’s a different story :crazy_face:

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I agree. Outside is about a 7 out of 10. And as someone else pointed out, the overhang could make a waterfall in heavy rain. (We’ll see if that happens.) Inside at ground level looks spectacular. My one gripe is that while the diagonal faux support beams on the exterior look interesting, they will block part of the view to the left and right when people are looking out the windows. When I’m up in a building I want to see as much of the view as possible, and I’m sure it’s the same for most people on this forum (except those who might vocalize their opposing opinion).

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JAXIN old buddy let me take you aside…

This forum is full of enthusiasts with an appreciation for architecture. Some of us are proud to call NY home. Me, I enjoy documenting the changing cityscape which I share w/the group. We all have our opinions and we toss them around like horseshoes.

However…there are some extremely knowledgable members in our community. They’re either in the trades & working on these buildings, or they work in commercial real estate or large scale development, or maybe, like @TKDV, they are practicing designers, engineers, or architects. So grab yourself a beer and welcome on in…and do buckle down on that research.

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That’s a great post! :100:

@JAXIN_STUART I don’t believe our conversation was a win/lose or right/wrong discussion, I just don’t believe one should judge/base views or come to conclusions off an incomplete building.

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Via EarthCam

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