NEW YORK | 262 Fifth Ave | 860 FT | 60 FLOORS

In a vacuum they probably wouldn’t hate it – but what if you gave them a before and after of the Flatiron Plaza view? I think your sample population would overwhelmingly prefer to hang the ‘before’ photo on their wall, unless they’re a great fan of visual irony.

I think that when this building is complete and part of the cityscape (rather than an ongoing project for some to raise objections over), it will eventually be known to the tourists at that plaza as ‘the random building in the way of my photo’.




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Taken on 7/1/24

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:night_with_stars: Walking above NYC At this hour, everything was calm, silent. I slipped through the construction site like a cat, with utmost discretion, and climbed the 57 floors to the top one by one. At this height, the view was fabulous, but that crane aw by Freed eXplore, on Flickr

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From 2 weeks ago


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This building is ridiculous.

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A poster on Reddit was at the Summit observation deck. Source

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Blocking the ESB is one thing, but blocking the new 520 too?! I mean c’mon!

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Objection to Sight lines in NYC is a moot point IMHO - we simply are not zoned for such architectural inevitabilities. Manhattan island is only about 2.5 miles wide, by 13 miles long - there will always be ‘sight line’ interference with each new tall building given that long/narrow footprint.

The being said; addressing matters of opinion. I like the design of 262 Fifth Ave because it is “architecture” as opposed to being simply “a building”. To qualify as ‘architecture’ the design does not need to be on the aesthetic levels of Vitruvius or Palladio; the design simply needs to be something special, delightful, interesting. In My Humble Opinion. :pensive:

Here is a random post I saw on LinkedIn: this guy seems to be expressing the same general idea that resonates with my views on architectural aesthetics.

Thank you 262 for being Architecture - and not JUST another BUILDING. :heart_eyes:

Quote from above Linkedin comment -
Good architecture, like good art, surprises me. There is a sense of mystery in it, which comes from somewhere deep and unexpected. Often with ideas from unexpected places like wet plaster studies or spending time with a concept–wind over a high prairie, a slab of firewood, a music box. Good architecture evokes something, makes us feel. Feeling revulsion doesn’t count.”…end quote.

For the record I was joking, but I feel I must now state that the jokes found on the link below in no way reflect the opinions of YIMBY or anyone posting therein.

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Photo dump from today, definitely probable that a BMU will be put into the ditch on the top of the crown. Possible water towers could be put up there too, still really a guessing game, this probably wouldn’t have massive cooling towers or water towers since there’s only 26 or whatever units… I like the high reflectivity and lightness of the cladding because it makes it disappear, as it should.











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I am using ChatGPT a lot lately. Today I asked my AI companion - “Tell me about the new building being constructed at 262 Fifth Avenue” The answers are obviously not entirely correct; but the information provided is immediate, and often quite helpful in learning some new bit of information.

This building is one of my current favorites of all the new buildings currently under construction here in NYC. :star_struck:

Next, I need to ask my AI companion for an opinion on the aesthetic merits of this architectural design too… :thinking:

ChatGPT response to a question about 262 Fifth Avenue -
262 Fifth Avenue is a prominent new development in Manhattan, New York City, known for its striking design and considerable height. Here are key details about the building:

1. Location

Address: 262 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10001.

Neighborhood: Situated in the NoMad (North of Madison Square Park) neighborhood, the building is located along Fifth Avenue, one of Manhattan’s most iconic streets.

2. Height and Design

Height: The building is set to rise approximately 1,009 feet (307 meters) tall, making it one of the tallest buildings in the NoMad area.

Stories: It will have around 54 floors.

Design: The building features a sleek, modern design with a narrow and elongated form. It has been described as having a “monolithic” appearance, with a distinctive profile that stands out in the skyline.

Architect: The architectural design is by Meganom, a Moscow-based firm known for innovative and contemporary design. The firm has created a unique façade for the building, which is characterized by a series of vertical metallic ribs and a glass exterior.

3. Residential Use

• The building is primarily residential, with luxury condominiums offering sweeping views of the New York City skyline. The units are expected to be high-end, catering to a luxury market.

• The interiors are expected to be designed with high-quality materials and finishes, in keeping with the building’s prestigious address.

4. Zoning and Development

Zoning: The building is developed under a zoning plan that likely includes the purchase of air rights from adjacent properties, similar to other tall buildings in Manhattan, to allow for its considerable height.

Developer: The project is developed by Rafael Viñoly Architects and has involved collaboration with international investors, particularly from Russia.

5. Status

Construction: The building’s construction began in the late 2010s and has been a notable part of the ongoing transformation of the NoMad neighborhood into a hub for luxury residential and commercial spaces.

Completion: The building is either nearing completion or completed, depending on the exact time of inquiry, with units likely available for purchase or already on the market.

6. Features and Amenities

Amenities: As is typical for luxury residential towers in Manhattan, 262 Fifth Avenue is expected to offer a range of high-end amenities, which might include a fitness center, swimming pool, private dining areas, and more.

Views: Given its height, residents will enjoy unobstructed views of landmarks such as the Empire State Building, One World Trade Center, and other parts of the Manhattan skyline.

262 Fifth Avenue is set to be a significant addition to Manhattan’s skyline, combining luxury living with an architecturally distinct design.

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Half of that AI jumble seemed like it was referring to the neighboring 277 5th Ave, a far better building…

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Something to be aware of when using ChatGPT, OpenAI is working with publishers and content owners to restrict information from returning in those search models, so you’re not always getting the best information, just free information.

e.g. if you are not already a Dow Jones subscriber, you’re not going to benefit from their journalism. Same goes for The Real Deal and other subscription based models, I would guess. In the near future, ChatGPT will pass a surcharge along to the end user for access to those data sets.

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Cool view from one vandy


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Class vs trash.

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