NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich St (2WTC) | 1,348 FT | 88 FLOORS | ON HOLD

BIG’s design had the same style in a certain way

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Yes, but it was horizontal glass vs vertical.

They met at the corners and it made sense for the facades theyre taking (horizontal at boxes, vertical at the facades facing the pools).

Here it just meets in the middle and its very noticable.

The nail in the coffin is the apparent use of spandrel panels/separate glass panels between slabs. Reminds of 1990’s glass.

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Thanks for the pictures. This model seems worse than the renders I saw a few months ago. In any event, IMO these two different exteriors make it look disjointed. Overall I find it has a very uninviting appearance except for the terraces with the trees.

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Did we ever get an update on the AmEx situation?

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Agreed. Plus - this design doesn’t fit with the rest of the towers at all and would take too much attention away from 1 WTC (in my opinion). I’m not sure why they’ve been stuck on this ugly step / disjointed type design since BIG’s attempt.

Sadly nothing as of yet. Ive also noticed they redid silverstein properties website. It used to be they listed it but access with proteced by a password. Now its now longer even advertised on the site but they still list 5WTC

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There’s a greater chance they’ll erect Larry’s tombstone before this building.

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No news is good news in this case, of course it could end up both ways. But I guess a fail in AMEX negotiations would have leaked by now…

The more I see these renders and models the more I hope they’ll just switch back to the initial Foster design with the diamond shaped rooftop. Or anohter redesign in a similar design with a dimond or angled rooftop, because I start to dislike the current design more and more (maybe that’s due to the infinite postponing).

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Soon, the only supertall under construction in America will be in Austin. Cannot remember the last time that a supertall wasn’t under construction in New York since I’ve been following skyscrapers.

Given the fact larry is 93 turning 94 in may you think he’d be willing to give prospective companies the lead in negotiations to get something done. Itll take another 3-4 years before tower 2 is finished once construction restarts. At most I’d say larry probably has 3-6 years left sadly so I definitely agree trying to build towers 2 and 5 will outlast larry

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Miami has a supertall currently under construction right now that is further behind (and taller) than Waterline Austin.

There are plenty of supertalls in the pipelines in NYC and 2 other buildings besides 2 WTC that are just also awaiting tenants (3 Hudson Blvd and 740 8th Ave).

Since I don’t know how old you are the last “gap” between supertall construction would be from when the NYT Tower was completed in 2007 to when the original WTC towers were completed in the 70s. The 17 supertalls built after/during 2007 (including NYT) all overlapped each other in terms of start and completion dates.

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Oh I was not aware that the WA began construction until now! Very cool.

I’ve only followed skyscrapers for the last decade, so I guess we were just spoiled back then.