Yes, but it was horizontal glass vs vertical.
They met at the corners and it made sense for the facades theyre taking (horizontal at boxes, vertical at the facades facing the pools).
Here it just meets in the middle and its very noticable.
The nail in the coffin is the apparent use of spandrel panels/separate glass panels between slabs. Reminds of 1990’s glass.
Thanks for the pictures. This model seems worse than the renders I saw a few months ago. In any event, IMO these two different exteriors make it look disjointed. Overall I find it has a very uninviting appearance except for the terraces with the trees.
Did we ever get an update on the AmEx situation?
Agreed. Plus - this design doesn’t fit with the rest of the towers at all and would take too much attention away from 1 WTC (in my opinion). I’m not sure why they’ve been stuck on this ugly step / disjointed type design since BIG’s attempt.
Sadly nothing as of yet. Ive also noticed they redid silverstein properties website. It used to be they listed it but access with proteced by a password. Now its now longer even advertised on the site but they still list 5WTC
There’s a greater chance they’ll erect Larry’s tombstone before this building.
No news is good news in this case, of course it could end up both ways. But I guess a fail in AMEX negotiations would have leaked by now…
The more I see these renders and models the more I hope they’ll just switch back to the initial Foster design with the diamond shaped rooftop. Or anohter redesign in a similar design with a dimond or angled rooftop, because I start to dislike the current design more and more (maybe that’s due to the infinite postponing).
Soon, the only supertall under construction in America will be in Austin. Cannot remember the last time that a supertall wasn’t under construction in New York since I’ve been following skyscrapers.
Given the fact larry is 93 turning 94 in may you think he’d be willing to give prospective companies the lead in negotiations to get something done. Itll take another 3-4 years before tower 2 is finished once construction restarts. At most I’d say larry probably has 3-6 years left sadly so I definitely agree trying to build towers 2 and 5 will outlast larry
Miami has a supertall currently under construction right now that is further behind (and taller) than Waterline Austin.
There are plenty of supertalls in the pipelines in NYC and 2 other buildings besides 2 WTC that are just also awaiting tenants (3 Hudson Blvd and 740 8th Ave).
Since I don’t know how old you are the last “gap” between supertall construction would be from when the NYT Tower was completed in 2007 to when the original WTC towers were completed in the 70s. The 17 supertalls built after/during 2007 (including NYT) all overlapped each other in terms of start and completion dates.
Oh I was not aware that the WA began construction until now! Very cool.
I’ve only followed skyscrapers for the last decade, so I guess we were just spoiled back then.
Sooooo apparently you can access 2 wtc page with this link.
90 floors, 1251 feet, 23 outdoor terraces, 200+ seat auditorium
So how does one find this out🤣.
I love the commitment though.
Also, 1,251 feet?! Did we miss a height decrease?
Edit: Oh I see, 2WTC is no longer missing from the SP website.
Maybe a good sign relating to the AMEX negotiations?
Interestingly, the file names for the floorplans imply that they were originally designed to cater towards tech and media uses:
This web page may not have anything to do with the ongoing AMEX talks – it seems to be an old work-in-progress copy of the main Silverstein website from late 2023, based on the last articles in the news page and the ‘staging02’ URL (which makes this an excellent find, Enterprise1701!). The 2WTC page on the main site was password protected at that time, and now is completely gone from the site.
I was just browsing wtc searches online and just happened to stumble across it lol. As soon as i opened it i was like no way
Weird how they’re only using images that leaked, especially that image of the early iteration. Only new stuff is the information and floorplans
And real question. Does this tower really look like it stands 172 feet above 3 WTC. Trust me, I know I shouldn’t base that off renderings, but 1,251 doesn’t look or sound right. That would also make the parapet (presumably, if it’s at that height) just 17 feet above One World Observatory (1,268 feet). I believe 1,251 feet could specifically be the roof level without the box crown
