NEW YORK | Penn Station Expansion/Improvements

HOK should really be the one who is given more credit for the ASTM proposal, not Chakrabarti, he was only brought on as a consulting figure for the 2nd ASTM iteration. To say its his design is very misleading and untrue @Mackensen.

“His” design was the nonsense 2016 one that basically just turned MSG into a giant hollowed out glass silo.

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Its the most realistic solution as well. MSG stays and gets a modern renovation while Penn gets a dignified entrance and upgrade.

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Interestingly, Apple Maps’s 3D model of MSG/Penn Station appears to be rendition of the ASTM proposal…maybe Byford’s giving them another chance!

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That is very interesting, I like the ASTM/HOK proposal, but I would’ve like it better if they had kept the Woods Bagot interior concourse instead of the new one…

It looked warmer and more open, the latest one where PAU replaced Woods Bagot is too austere and monotone.


The Woods Bagot ceiling would’ve looked beautiful.

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The Woods-Bagot design is amazing. It’d work very well with the finishes of the LIRR concourse and overall aesthetic of the existing renovations.

The ASTM/HOK design seems to have what appear to be skylights by the staircases, and that will make for a more pleasant track-level experience with the potential for daylight to once again reach the bowels of Penn Station.

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ASTM/HOK (really HOK since they are the architect and ASTM is the developer) designed both iterations, its just Woods Bagot and PAU that are the different architects that were brought onto the projects.

To be fair, if what is believed to be glass skylights in the PAU version is really glass, it doesn’t look like it would really bring in that much “natural” daylight especially when one considers that the potential 8th Ave entrance faces almost NW so there would never really be enough sun reaching into the depth of the building to reach the track levels.

In other renders it seems like its more of a design motif inlayed into the flooring, because it also extends into the portion of platforms where sun/natural light would never reach.

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Not sure why only one rendering shows the balcony in the foreground but regardless, I prefer the brass (or is it steel and wood) railing over a glass partition.