Very overdue. Its blight for the area. Makes it look like a low-scale Times Square, and not in a good way. Considering this is the 1st view for many leaving MSG or Penn, not a good impression.
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I agree, Chris. Vornado owns that filthy deli. The McD was recently sold. I hope that Vornado bought it.
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The redesign is ok to me, obviously not the best. Just straight up weird, but that’s ok to me. Do we know the architect of the redesign?
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It looks like a “vinoly special” to me
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I just don’t like how close such an ugly building will be next to the ESB. at least give it setbacks and a spire to fit in with the skyline
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That’s my thinking too. I’m not opposed to something large being built so close to, or occluding views of, the ESB. But whatever rises here is going to feature prominently in those views and photos of New York’s most iconic building. If Vornado is seriously positioning Penn 15 as the focal point for a “new center of New York,” this should at least try to measure up architecturally to its prominent place on the skyline. This stack of boxes does not come close to meeting that standard. I can imagine people trying, with great difficulty because of its location, to crop it out of their photos like Paris’ Tour Montparnasse.
Building iconic supertalls is expensive and even then, usually requires a stroke of inspiration that you can’t just buy, but even a bottom-line-maximizing building doesn’t need to be this ugly. I would much prefer a plain glass monolith – preferably with a taper to show a little deference to the King, something like a 1400’ One Manhattan West or BIG’s Spiral, since terraces are an important amenity – over an eyesore we’ll be stuck with for the next century.
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Not a very big fan TBH. Of the three designs we’ve seen for this site–Pelli, Vinoly, and now Foster–I like Pelli’s the best, even though it’s the oldest and “outdated”. That will never get built though.
I hope the stacked box trend ends soon, it’s played out. Stacked boxes are what the “twisted skyscraper” was in the 2000s. A fad all the big firms want to get in on.
I understand why they want blank walls–more column free floor space–but they are still unsightly.
This just reaffirms my belief that despite some great buildings here and there, Norman Foster peaked in 1978.
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Please no this looks terrible
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Unbelievable.
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Gosh, enough with Foster (and blank walls!) already.
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So was this actually an early iteration of the Foster design? It was reported at the time that it was by Vinoly.
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Probably worse than tower fifth
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Vinoly did the Facebook iteration. This one came out after Facebook went to 50 HY and Moynihan.
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I still think the main tower (Penn 15, lmao what a hilarious name) is too messy looking, but I kinda like the one to the east of One Penn Plaza. It looks like it could be a supertall.
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This building is not attractive. The address is a joke. Everybody involved needs to do better.
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This looks alright and all, but does New York REALLY need this?
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Yes, it does
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Yes, and ALL that’s coming…
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