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I believe it has been tried but those attempts fell apart. Don’t know the whole story though

I don’t think it helps that the area is nowhere near a subway stop.

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I’d much rather see Solow’s original Turtle Bay South development come to fruition than this proposal, it seems like a waste of space considering that the Ferris wheel is taking up a majority % of the entire lot and there’s nothing there but the 2 story casino (most likely) underneath it. It’s location next to FDR is also unpleasant even though it appears the upper deck is covering it and the off ramp.

As for why nothing’s happened to the site in general, I think things just never picked up after the one tower of the complex was built (685 1st Ave).

Of all the casino proposals, I’m most looking forward to Wynn/Related proposals and hope it is one of the 3 that gets the license. Caesar’s/SLGreen’s Times Square proposal is also interesting, but I don’t like this Solow proposal.

Also lmao, that render is all sorts strange, 35 Hudson Yards makes an appearance in front of a 90° turned MetLife Building and there are two 3 WTC’s making an appearance as well.

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Per: Jay-Z joins Times Square team bidding for prized NYC casino

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i can’t read anything

Paywall

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I agree, the original proposal was the best. I could see the casino and ferris wheel as amenities across the FDR from the main development block, though. It would be nice to have an answer to the London Eye and maybe a Singapore of the West as well.

Per NYguy



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Much better architecture than I feared we might see for Caesars. This fits Times Square like a glove.

Of the major proposals, I think I’m rooting for this one or Coney Island. The East River proposal has a good design and I like the ferris wheel, but it’s in a bit of a transit desert and would generate a lot of car traffic. And I really don’t like the idea of squeezing a casino into Hudson Yards alongside residential, a school and offices — adding a tourist trap like a casino into the mix will prevent HY from ever feeling a real neighborhood.

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Yeah, Hudson Yards had its brute force moment on the skyline. Now, it’s time to add context, class and a bit more softness to it. A casino is not the way. The east river proposal presents a unique spin on things, but I think for that site, it’s just better with substance over style. Coney Island could use some activity and this one could present a decent boost to Times Square. Overall, the 70’s are back and something needs to happen.

In what ways are the 70s back in Times Sq?

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The whole holding pattern it’s in.

My vote is for Times Square. Most everyday New Yorkers (including myself) will go nowhere near this casino. It just makes sense to put it in the one place where most New Yorkers avoid.

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Please elaborate

Tons of the same things. More and more of those same LED displays, same panhandlers, same sponsors, same commercialization, particularly the tech companies, I mean, still the FAANG stocks especially. The big department anchors, Nordstrom, Macy’s, Neiman Marcus in particular, all just seem to always have adverts there 24/7.

I mean if SLG/CP get the license, what’s depicted in the renders isn’t going to really change this “holding pattern”, theres still gonna be giant LED screens (more than what’s currently on 1515 Broadway atm) and the top one isn’t just going to say Caesar’s Palace all the time, It’d also be an advertising board. Unless I am just reading your initial comment wrong and you are saying that more things need to be the same.

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No, I am generally a change-welcoming person and I think that a casino will be great for Times Square at the end of the day. It just always seems to be the same gaming companies like MGM, Caesars, and the like. I guess I just tend to put myself wrong sometimes. I am getting better at it, though.

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