Great height but terrible design. I wonder what the approved design looks like.
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Knowing this city the approved design is probably even more dull
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Absurdly out of scale.
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Who cares. Thatâs a NIMBY talking point. Itâs only out of scale because nothings been built up around it which will eventually happen
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Unlikely. Landmarked district.
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You are the main part of the problem with housing costs, Boomer.
There are very few buildings in this district important enough to stick around forever.
The Landmarks Committee can rescind the status. It just would take a very influential developer or politician to make it happen.
With the way housing prices are going, who knows what happens 10-20-30 years down the line.
This is New York. We have tall buildings. Get over it.
Well if rudeness is on the menu, here goes. This town isnât made so you can edge while looking at towers on your screen. Try going to Europe to see how they develop their cities. NYC in particular isnât like the rest of USA. Broaden your horizons, dweeb.
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Why are many people on here so aggressive.
We like to talk about buildings. Itâs not that deep. Letâs just be chill and respectful to each other.
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Europe is a museum with sub-1% economic growth.
No thanks.
And there you have it ladies and gentlemen.
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Me when I sacrifice every quality in life for that extra 1% of economic growth:
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Is it weird I like it? Maybe bland but fairly handsome and the height doesnât really seem that bad especially with the new google towers on West Street
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There are still hungry people. Seems important to want growth.
That doesnât necessitate an ugly eyesore.
It has exactly 0 of the factors that made the twin towers iconic.
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Can we get back to the topic?
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Hell froze over
This facade is very elegant, and tasteful looking from a âcurbsideâ vantage point. The stone, window frame details, various subtle angles along the facade; nice to see a richly detailed modernist design. Modernist work can be quite intricate if done well; this one is quite good.
The Vitruvian Triad comes to mind regarding the âusefulnessâ feature in the Usefulness/Firmness/Beauty triad.
Those deep set windows have a âusefulâ function that I think is called the âeyebrowâ effect. I am not sure about that term âeyebrowâ and/or if IM Pei used that term - but he definitely did go for that Deep-Set-Window effect. The deep set glass becomes glare-free from the direct rays of the sun: they view from inside becomes quite clear and distinct even on sunny days. I recall IM Pei used this feature a lot on many of his buildings in order to get that âshadow boxâ affect on the windows.
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Good architecture always is always form-follows-function; particularly modernist architecture.
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Outside of all the disagreements, some seem to have glanced directly over @BK1985âs post, no need to continue to speak about a design that was not chosen, letâs not make this another 418 11th Ave thread where people keep bringing up a design (2 in that instance) that will never be built as it pertains to the topicâs location.
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