NEW YORK | 80 South St | 1,436 FT | 113 FLOORS

“And the developer is looking for a taker for a development site it purchased at 80 South Street in New York — a site for a super-tall, 1,400 tower near Manhattan’s South Street Seaport that’s already been designed
I hope there’s an actual final design now

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Most likely they were referencing the atchain renderings

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Agreed

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From my NYC 3d model:

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Phenomenal work!!!

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Wow this is impressive!

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Looks really good. But Ugh, I got excited when I saw the thread was updated.

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Good news, the Chinese company that couldn’t get this done is desperately trying to unload this site. I hope an ambitious NYC developer buys it and we get a 1500ft tower here. Remember, this has over one million square feet of air rights on a fairly small lot. It could be huge. Also, this is totally as of right, so the developer who buys this could build a giant tower without jumping through hoops with the notorious neighborhood NIMBYs. Remember how they massacred 250 Water Street? Well they can’t do a thing about this tower, which is way bigger.

https://therealdeal.com/2021/10/21/chinese-developer-willing-to-sell-manhattan-supertall-site-at-big-loss/

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paging Mr. Michael Stern

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Don’t forget, SHoP (Michael Stern/JDS’s house architects) were once slated to design a supertall here. If he buys it we can expect a high quality design.

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We should start a “draft Michael Stern” petition for this site. lol

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I hope that with 111 W57th essentially finished, and 9 Dekalb not too far behind, Stern is absolutely looking for his next signature project. This one would be a perfect contender.

He has the best tower on Billionaire’s row (arguably in all of Midtown) and the best tower in Brooklyn, so it seems fitting he would want the best tower in Lower Manhattan to finish the trifecta.

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Would be nice to see JDS put their stamp on the Financial District. It’s a mind-boggling area though, very frustrating and confusing, so they’d have to make sense of the lot somehow!

In my mind, they need to throw something up in the vein of their previous signature projects; Inspired by Pre-War designs, but enabled by modern technology/resources, and oh, so sexy!

Would their investment in the Financial District lead to other development companies putting their money into large-scale, possibly WTC-beating supertalls down there though? That’s the question!

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Maybe they can make something to complement 45 broad street. Which will almost certainly get built, I swear the doomers come out of the woodworks every time a project is even rumored to be delayed, but it’s a prime site with all of the prerequisites already covered which means it will inevitably get built.

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I blame things like those neighborhood special interest groups and the Municipal Arts Society for massive slashes to the height of many of the projects around the city. Like, shadows happen in cities. Deal with it. In fact, make 80 South taller than Freedom Tower for all I care, the reconstruction of the World Trade Center was botched from day 1 anyways.

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Didn’t MAS come out against 175 Park? lol if so.
I’m happy with the WTC complex as it is now, but the original plan with the 2,000 fter looked amazing. Shame it didn’t get really

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I wonder if any one wants to touch this site and start digging next to One Seaport until those issues next door are resolved.

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In addition to the expected laundry list of complaints about its height and relation to GCT and Chrysler, MAS had this to say about 175 Park: “175 Park Avenue is a series of extruded boxes more appropriate for Dallas or Dubai.” Don’t they realize that NYC literally invented that extruded “wedding cake” style high-rise with the 1916 Zoning Resolution? What a ridiculous complaint.

On the other hand, MAS said Macklowe’s ugly, out-of-context mid-block behemoth Tower Fifth “makes sense”. Go figure.

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Well, keeping things on topic, I would like to see how to potentially extend some sort of infill to the adjacent, incomplete 161 Maiden Lane. Nothing much, just some floor plates to add a bit of space.

I presume Oceanwide has yet to find a buyer


Pier Next to Pier 17 NYC by Michael Benjamin, on Flickr

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