doesn’t the RFP have to be renewed first?
@robertwalpole Affirmation Tower yes, but 418 11th Ave in general no.
@007 this isnt the 418 11th Ave thread, but either way the RFP isnt dictating height.
@bmosborne Ah, I see, but that logic is still flawed (the tallest in the city idea), because the building as proposed atm, the 1450’, is around the height it will be as built, because it is already pushing its max developable FAR, they cant add more floors and/or make the floors any taller because they are already tall considering they aren’t all trading floors like at the bottom of 270 Park ave. So thats where my 520’ spire comment comes into place to reach megatall, that would look extremely out of place.
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Yes. It would not surprise me if the RFP that’s reissued is the same as the prior one. All developers agree that AH would not work on that site. AH is a political hot potato that Hochul did not want to touch before the election.
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This sky bar looks great, I wonder if this one gets built if it will be public?
Also I don’t think I realized how close this would be to Grand Central, and especially to 270 Park, another monster. Or maybe that’s just the angle in this render?
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It will be five blocks due north of 270 Park and ten blocks north of GCT!
This, 1 Vandy, 175, and 270 will be a formidable quartet.
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Don’t forget about Tower Fifth ( maybe1550+ ft).
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It’s just the render itself more than the angle of the image, it’s in the wrong position and it’s angle is slightly off. It’d be insersecting with 270 Park Ave if it were there, but it would be much more to the right in the middle of the right turret of the WA (to the right of the U/C 111 W 57th St).
@robertwalpole 4 blocks & 9 blocks (respectively) you don’t include the block you’re “on” or start from. 
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Oh I see. Not as close, but these 2 giants will still be fairly close to each other. It’s great too see. Hopefully even more big ones get announced.
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Are there any renders of how this looks from the west? I’m curious as to how the back or blank wall looks and what materials will be used.
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Yeah, like the render TK referenced, I believe it will be similar to 425 Park Avenue’s back and have strips of windows between the solid cladding.
@mcart I was able to interpolate the same image angle and this is how that shot would really look like, as one can see, they placed it exactly where 270 Park Ave is. Can also see how the building’s side to front ratio is more equal than in the render from this perspective.
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To add to my other comment, I might be in the minority when I say I don’t really care for this design, I think the majority front face is nice, but I don’t care for the sides and back in profile, it looks odd from other perspectives looking the other direction. Like a mass of different shapes put together.
One could say the same thing about 15 PENN, but it’s boxy geometry prevents it from looking strange at different angles because it’s more cohesive. The height is impressive here, but to me that may be the only impressive thing. I think if it was more angular and simplified like 41 W 57th St’s proposal, it would be better. There’s just to many things going on.
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Very nice work. This is going to be utterly spectacular.
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I’m amazed that this atrocious little building (430 Park) hasn’t been redeveloped. A limestone RAMSA would be very nice here.
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Oh my god I can see the Osborn Penthouse from the original Spiderman movies. Thats awesome
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430 park could definitely use something in the 1,000 ft. range. Too bad Lever’s a landmark or I would replace that one as well.
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There is a reason why Lever is a landmark.
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I don’t think that 430 could support anything too tall because its site is tiny.
Lever House is historic.
Lever House is more than historic. It’s iconic—one of the earliest SOM buildings in the city with Bunshaft as the lead architect and an early example of the International Style. Its design did not use the full zoning envelop available—a declaration of wealth by Lever and perhaps a bit egotistical. It is why the name “house” rather than building is so fitting. But the result is a stunning jewel on Park Avenue. It’s stacked boxes play off each other much like Mies’ Lake Shore Apartments in Chicago resonate off each other. The recently redone open air space under the raised outdoor plaza and the plaza itself are really nice. This is a prized building we should rejoice having as our neighbor.
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I whole-heartedly agree!! As I said in the 15 Penn thread…too many Foster buildings with ugly exposed cores going up in the city.
So I don’t really care for this design either. It’s not horrible (and will look fantastic at street level from park Ave), but overall it’s below average mostly because of the 1400ft sheer wall that they purposely don’t show in the renderings (like 15 Penn and 425 Park)
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