I’m very interested on how the western side profile looks. I really hope it isn’t just a blank blue wall, that would be extremely disappointing. The renders show pretty subtle lighting, but who knows, the renderings for 270 park also underplayed its capabilities. I’d bet Vornado would try to one up this building with something akin to a staircase to god.
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Lol I was just typing this exact comment as you posted it. I was wondering the same thing. I’m pretty sure that the west side, the one facing most of Midtown, is going to appear as just a ginormous wall of plain blue glass. A disappointment for sure.
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Something I find very fascinating is in a world of Dubai’s and extremely lavish skyscrapers in the Middle East and East Asia presenting wealth and power, it’s interesting how NYC -where finance and power reign supreme- the tallest modern skyscrapers have so far been very subtle monoliths of power.
It’s like our rich and powerful project power through the power of stone, rather than much more explicit representations abroad. Which is odd because the most lavish skyscrapers in Asia are often built using American Architects.
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I’d say a glass covered wall is better than a gray blank wall covering the core
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DON’T miss the opportunity to have a wall of glass elevators there.
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Yes I will concede the old design had quite the ugly backside so even a sheer wall of blue glass like 1/2 Manhattan West will look better.
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We’ve already visited the topic of the west side, and it’s still most likely going to be a blank/spandrel glass wall. Dont be surprised if its just completely dark at night because of that.
What a diaaster. They could’ve had elevators going all the way up to 1400ft… and vibrant night visuals. The building is shaped perfectly to pull a Leadenhall.
350 Park Avenue is similar in shape to 270 Park Avenue. I guess Norman Foster could reinforce that connection with this facade on western side.
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Doing anything alike will be an admission that they just copied the initial rough massings for 270P and lost all creativity beyond that
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Just two weeks after getting the green light to break ground on a long-touted Midtown skyscraper, the developers behind the project have filed plans to demolish two of the buildings standing in its way.
Richard Concannon, vice president of operations at Rudin, and David Bellman, executive vice president at Vornado Realty Trust — the two firms spearheading the project alongside hedge fund magnate Ken Griffin — submitted permits to the Department of Buildings Thursday to demolish 40 E. 52nd St. and 350 Park Ave. on the site of the proposed tower, records show.
A 5-story building located at 39 E. 51st St. would also need to be demolished to make way for the project, but permits for it have not yet been filed, records show. The majority of the existing footprint is already vacant, and the new building is expected to come online in 2032.
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Nice. So close now, a building taller than Willis under construction in NYC again. Now if only we could get one taller than 1WTC
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So will this just look like a taller version of the Manhattan West towers on the west facing facade?
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Perhaps I’m wrong, but my understanding has been that the western facade will be a blank wall of some sort. If that is sadly the case, then, no, it will not be like Manhattan West towers.
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I presume they are interpretting Manhattan West-esque to say that the west face will just be a “blank" flat glass wall, which is what the ULURP drawings depict.
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Better be proper glass and not spandrels.
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Blank wall of curved glass is what I was referring to, since the glass cladding in the renders looks curved.
Oh, I see – my mistake then! I was confused because the Manhattan West towers don’t feature offset cores (and therefore have real windows all the way around).
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Well its definitely going to be shadowbox/spandrel to hide the portion of core where it occurs, is that what you’re referring to?
@s2000 its only curved at the corners of the volumes (like Manhattan West), not the west and east sides, its just going to be flat.
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