From above in this thread
Here’s a bit in the terra cotta:
Oh damn, I didn’t know they were going to build this over an existing building
When I was there and comparing it to this render I knew something had to be off because the empire state building would be in Brooklyn in the below shot. I figured it couldn’t literally be built right on top of the 10 story building in JC’s pic. Its going to cover a bunch of windows. Why don’t they just tear the little thing down?
only in new york would they build straight on top of another building, seriously where else would that even be considered!
That is some awesome work in Toronto, but I think he was talking about how it cantilevers over the existing structure.
The following link as a supplement on this tower ((information/pdf’s (at the bottom)):
Information & Plans all the way at the bottom.
Ridiculous delays. Gale Brewer is the kind of politician New York deserves…a real visionary
NYC needs new leadership period. How someone like Gale Brewer…becomes “borough” president, is in itself a giant failure in a skyscraper city.
I hope this quote from the Judge who delayed it is not actually what he said
“These are huge towers. I’ve lived in the city my whole life. You can’t just do this because the zoning allows it. I just can’t believe this is the case”
Zoning is only the way things have worked for the last 103 years.
Almost the definition of legislating from the bench
Yay more Bureaucracy!
hopefully it will be overturned…
le sigh
same judge, different case. Totally frivolous suit that will be reversed if the previous ruling is successfully vacated.
Approvals revoked supposedly
Good find here: very enlightening. This means that the ‘rule of law’ and well established ‘zoning regulations’ regulations have no real significance; what matters most the opinion/preference/attitude of a group of individuals who have the power to impose their will on the people of this city. That is not democracy, or rule of law: it is an arbitrary and capricious decision that serves some particular (yet unknown) agenda. I reading this thread it seems to me that all our laws and zoning regulations are “open to interpretation” - which in effect, we have NO actual LAWS or ZONING REGULATIONS. Rant over: feel free to disagree, but I will not argue the above personal ‘opinion’.
I think the notion that laws can be written without ambiguity is a pipe dream. There always be room to maneuver and therefore space for money and noise to operate. One major example in NYC is the widely used FAR rules for building size. But that may allow room for creation of very high ceilings for utility floors to raise the height of residential floors. So some responses have been to impose ceiling height or building height rules. But developers will almost always be able to find another pressure point. It’s unavoidable.
Clear, predictable, consistent zoning and building codes encourage investment. Letting anyone appeal anything in a serious way introduces costs and significant risks for developers, which discourages investment.
Sure, there are exceptions to everything, and no regulation is perfect. But every city should absolutely strive for clear, predictable, consistent zoning and building codes if they care at all about encouraging investment in the city’s real estate market. City employees should publicly defend the existing codes on this basis.
Even politicians should be making this argument. It’s not inconsistent to support enforcement of the existing zoning while entertaining proposals to change it for future projects.