NEW YORK | 201 East 23rd Street (The Willow) | 210 FT | 19 FLOORS

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This is better quality than many other buildings that have gone up recently in this area.

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Question for our experts, will brick veneer panels eliminate spalling?

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This building is using a “prefabricated brick panel system” on the facade. Here is a look at 5 different types. I do not think any of them would be called “brick veneer” ?

Spalling can occur with any type of masonry material on the facade: water penetrates the pores; then freezing temps cause the water to freeze and expand - which then causes SPALLING.

It would be great to hear from a subject matter expert on this very good question. I can only offer my best understand from what I read on YIMBY.

I quess you could say I am ‘spitballing’ on the subject of “SPALLING”… :rofl:

These bricks are being hand laid (this is always clear when the type of scaffolding visible on the building is present), they aren’t hung on prefabricated panels/other panels.

@stache So while they are still brick veneer in the sense that they are non load bearing, yes there is still potential for spalling.

Wow. I just took another look at the photo set posted above on Field Condition. Photo #10 shows the raw concrete terrace with a few loose bricks laying around - proof positive they are hand laid.

I am impressed - the quality of the work of the craft trades on this project is wonderful to behold.

Always getting great insights and understanding from the YIMBY forums: a wonderful resource for forum members and general public as well. :star_struck:

Thanks to all for the great input.


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That’s interesting. I walked by it the other day and I noticed the brick laying isn’t starting at the base. I just assumed they were panels.

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Though it makes sense to think that bricks would be laid starting from the bottom, bricks can start being laid anywhere there is a support ledge.

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Yes I was thinking about that.

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I can see the brick work looks particularly well crafted on this facade. I would like to think that I am able to discern the difference between a building facade made of ‘prefabricated brick panels’ vs. hand laid brick. Honestly, I am no sure I could tell the difference. :thinking:

I do appreciate the aesthetic appeal and the craft work that it takes; hopefully those finer aspects of this new condo will not go unrewarded - that is, rewarded in the form or higher sale values . :face_with_monocle:

BTW. I have 6 other posts on this topic. Please click on my infoshare tag above to see all my other photos/comments/links in this thread.

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