NEW YORK | 180 East 88th Street | 521 FT | 31 FLOORS

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man this building turned out to be a dud

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If they had covered those arches in similar brick, it might’ve been quite nice.

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I also think it’s not a great building. Even if the facade around the arched openings was different, they would have seemed tacked on and out of sync with the rest of the facade. And below the arches the brick facing and windows are typical and boring. This one is nothing to write home about.

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the arches are just so spectacular for the rest of the building to completely suck ass

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The different cladding (or lack of) where the arches are makes this building look eternally unfinished.

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What happened to the great facade finish we see on the original rendering? That is clearly a brick veneer around the arches that matches nicely wtih the resst of the brickwork on the facade.

This architectural design is aesthetically pleasing - but for one important feature. The raw concrete on the sections with the arches. This rendering depicts the original intent - which is lovely. They had a good design; and spoiled it - perhaps due to a need to do VE on the construction costs.

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Infoshare. I agree on the finish but disagree on the arches. To me they just don’t work with the rest of the building. Just slight hints of curves in other features would make a huge difference. These just come across as odd.

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That is the nice thing about the ‘arts’ - reasonable minds can gladly disagree. :innocent:

I was actually delighted by this design when I first saw those early renderings.

For some reason the design reminded me of one of my favorites - Anton Gaudi

In my humble opinion the aesthetic merits of this building transcends the limits of what is merely a utilitarian or building standard design; and it does so by a wide margin. I would go as far as saying that the artistry of this architectural design merits the accolade of Capital A Architecture.

I truly believe the design rates up there with iconic works of Anton Gaudy. The unfortunate use of a raw concrete facade treatment has really compromised what could have been an architectural stunner.

I enjoyed your take on the subject…cheers

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There are a number of different renders (of slightly older and of the latest iteration that was built) that all show the finish as being concrete, its not brick on the arch parts in any of the renders, thats just the texture mapping they used in the rendering software that was used. It’s still concrete.

It looks like that because the concrete was shown in the newer renders (the one you shared is of the older version that was just supposed to be plain concrete) to have a similar narrow slatted pattern like the core side does (though not in chevrons), but the resultant construction omitted that, whether that was a result of VE or just a design decision is a question, but there was no VE’ing of brick to concrete on the arches because they were always concrete.

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Infoshare. I love Gaudi. Been in that building you posted. But Gaudi uses curves in a complete statement. Much better than this building. And yes aesthetics is made whole by gentle disagreement. And Park Guelln in Barcelona is absolutely stunning. What an amazingly creative guy he was.