# PHILADELPHIA | Transportation and Transit News
**URL:** https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509
**Category:** Philadelphia
**Created:** [March 3, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509 "2023-03-03T19:26:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2024, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/61 "2024-05-02T04:12:58Z")
> **[New proposal for Philly intercity bus stop is Old City parking garage ](https://billypenn.com/2024/04/29/philly-bus-terminal-autopark-old-city/)**
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> The city's wandering bus terminal for Greyhound and other carriers could land at the AutoPark at Olde City.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/62 "2024-05-30T15:00:06Z")
Philadelphia’s biggest revolution since 1776?
> **[After years of delays, SEPTA approves Bus Revolution](https://whyy.org/articles/septa-bus-revolution-approval/)**
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> Portions of the new network, which trims the number of routes from 125 to 106, will launch on June 1, 2025, and continue through the fall.
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### Author:  [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/63 "2024-05-30T15:21:53Z")
It drives me crazy that they’re going to all this trouble and not fixing the stop spacing on most routes. So many routes have a stop on _every single corner_, and those blocks are _not_ long. This obviously slows down bus service, as well as other traffic on those routes. A stop every other block (or every three) would still be convenient but speed things up so much. SEPTA is such a timid organization it’s no wonder they have the reputation they do.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [May 31, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/64 "2024-05-31T18:36:56Z")
The only scenario where it is appropriate to have closely spaced bus stops is for routes that duplicate rail service, such as along Market or Broad streets. The idea here is that if someone is riding that bus then they’re probably not in a hurry anyway.
In other news, the intercity bus terminal saga continues:
> **[Philly starts the hunt for an intercity bus station near 30th Street](https://billypenn.com/2024/05/30/philadelphia-bus-terminal-30th-street/)**
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> Project grant calls for feasibility study, community engagement to identify new home for bus travelers in and out of Philadelphia.
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### Author:  [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)
#### Post date: [June 1, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/65 "2024-06-01T13:32:42Z")
Their Center City transit map still shows the bus station at the old location. Typical Philly.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/66 "2024-06-12T02:14:07Z")
> **[After months of delays, SEPTA says vintage trolleys will be back in service...](https://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/news/local/septa-vintage-trolleys-return-june-16)**
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> More than four years after being taken out of service for refurbishment, SEPTA’s vintage trolleys are returning to service. Starting June 16, riders can once again board those 1940s-era green-and-cream-colored PCC trolleys along Girard Avenue.
Finally! The historic trolleys have not operated on Girard Avenue since January 2020.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/67 "2024-07-12T11:58:18Z")
> **[Philly officials no longer want to talk about an Old City Greyhound station,...](https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia/meetings-canceled-old-city-bus-station-20240711.html)**
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> City officials "reevaluated our engagement process" and canceled scheduled community meetings until it has more information on the proposed bus station.
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### Author:  [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/68 "2024-07-12T13:32:40Z")
Parker is not doing well.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [July 12, 2024, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/69 "2024-07-12T14:16:50Z")
They need to get their act together and have the intercity bus passengers served at 30th Street station. That has been the most logical place for coach buses since 1933. This whole nonsense of moving the bus terminal from Chinatown to Independence Square to Spring Garden to maybe even Old Town now needs to end, and it needs to end now.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/70 "2024-07-31T15:38:34Z")
Peter Pan buses started serving 30th Station earlier this month
[https://peterpanbus.com/peter-pan-bus-new-philadelphia-stop/](https://peterpanbus.com/peter-pan-bus-new-philadelphia-stop/)
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### Author:  [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/71 "2024-07-31T17:21:03Z")
New trains from Hitachi have been announced for the SEPTA Market-Frankford Line. They include features such as open gangways, digital signage and more passenger capacity.
> **[SEPTA awards contract for modern Market-Frankford Line trains](https://www.globalrailwayreview.com/news/176029/septa-awards-contract-modern-market-frankford-line-trains/)**
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> SEPTA has awarded a $724.3 million contract to Hitachi Rail for 200 new trains to upgrade the Market-Frankford Line.
> **[Renderings of new SEPTA train cars for Market-Frankford Line revealed](https://6abc.com/post/renderings-new-septa-train-cars-market-frankford-line/15098634/)**
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> SEPTA has taken the first step toward replacing its aging Market-Frankford line cars.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/72 "2024-08-27T19:01:19Z")
[https://wwww.septa.org/news/septa-to-increase-regional-rail-service-new-schedules-for-all-lines-effective-sunday-sept-8/](https://wwww.septa.org/news/septa-to-increase-regional-rail-service-new-schedules-for-all-lines-effective-sunday-sept-8/)
> PHILADELPHIA (August 26, 2024) – SEPTA is increasing Regional Rail service next month by adding 99 weekend trains and 24 weekday trains to the schedule. [New timetables for all lines](https://wwww.septa.org/bulletins/new-fall-regional-rail-schedules/) will go into effect on Sunday, September 8.
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> These service additions will restore 80% of pre-COVID service on weekdays (up from 77%) and 84% on weekends (up from 63%). Regional Rail ridership recovery is currently at about 67% of pre-pandemic levels, with weekend ridership growth outpacing weekdays.
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### Author:  [@McPickle34](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/McPickle34)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/73 "2024-09-06T05:54:21Z")
this is great news, its incredible that even in the face of the impending fiscal cliff, SEPTA is still trying to improve its service as much as it can. Hopefully funding gets passed sooner than later
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2024, 10:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/74 "2024-09-27T10:34:54Z")
> **[SEPTA plans to install new gates, designed to deter fare evasion, at more L...](https://www.audacy.com/kywnewsradio/news/local/septa-new-gates-market-frankford-line-fare-evasion)**
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> SEPTA wants to expand its inventory of new gates designed to deter turnstile jumpers. A dozen gates, installed at the 69th Street Transportation Center in April, have proven so effective that the transit agency is ready to buy 100 more.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/75 "2024-10-24T05:03:34Z")
PATCO infill station in Franklin Square will not open until next year.
> **[Work to reopen PATCO’s Franklin Square Station is reaching the end of the line](https://whyy.org/articles/patco-franklin-square-ghost-station-philadelphia/)**
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> The project started in 2020 and is expected to wrap up early next year.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/76 "2024-11-07T01:56:11Z")
> **[SEPTA workers could strike as soon as Friday | Here is the potential impact...](https://6abc.com/amp/post/septa-workers-could-strike-soon-friday-here-is-potential-impact-riders-philadelphia-region/15518211/)**
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> Time is running out for SEPTA to reach a new contract deal with its union workers.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/77 "2024-11-15T16:43:01Z")
> **[SEPTA postpones Bus Revolution due to budget deficit](https://billypenn.com/2024/11/14/septa-bus-revolution-postponed-budget/)**
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> The plan for more frequent and reliable buses is the funding crisis’ first victim.
The revolution will not be mobilized!
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2024, 4:36am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/78 "2024-11-16T04:36:59Z")
Gimme shelter?
> **[Intercity bus riders at Spring Garden terminal will get a waiting room trailer](https://billypenn.com/2024/11/15/spring-garden-philly-bus-terminal-waiting-room/)**
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> Plans to move the curbside stop to an Old City garage are stuck in limbo.
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### Author:  [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/79 "2024-11-16T15:14:41Z")
This will become a mini homeless shelter.
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### Author:  [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/philadelphia-transportation-and-transit-news/22509/80 "2024-12-01T16:20:28Z")
Helter shelter?
> **[The city wants to install a heated shelter at the Greyhound bus terminal....](https://www.inquirer.com/transportation/greyhound-bus-shelter-northern-liberties-20241126.html)**
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> After strong pushback from Northern Liberties community members, the city said there is no timeline for installing the shelter.
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