# Pedestrianize NYC **URL:** \ **Category:** New York\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519 "2022-07-13T17:18:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/223 "2024-11-01T00:45:34Z")
It’s worth noting while their speed is impressive and admirable, there’s a major issue plaguing their construction - poor quality. A lot of work is done poorly and there is often corruption involved in the process. More often than not, durability and quality are overlooked for the sake of speed. There’s a lot of media coverage of the poor quality. > **[On Poor Quality: Corruption and Construction in China | Smart Cities Dive](https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/ex/sustainablecitiescollective/poor-quality-corruption-and-construction-china/32889/)** > > Smart Cities > **[China's Infrastructure and Construction Problem | Aii Policy Blog](https://www.aii.org/chinas-infrastructure-and-construction-problem/)** > > It all comes down to the quality of infrastructure being built and its larger effect on China’s economy.  [https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-global-mega-projects-infrastructure-falling-apart-11674166180](https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-global-mega-projects-infrastructure-falling-apart-11674166180) ([Paywall Bypass](https://archive.ph/tw6qp)) There’s even a term for poor-quality work in China. > **[Tofu-dreg project](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tofu-dreg_project)** > > "Tofu-dreg project" (Chinese: 豆腐渣工程) is a phrase used in the Chinese-speaking world to describe a poorly constructed building, sometimes called just "Tofu buildings". The phrase was coined by Zhu Rongji, the former premier of the People's Republic of China, on a 1998 visit to Jiujiang City, Jiangxi Province to describe poorly-built levees in the Yangtze River. The phrase is notably used referring to buildings collapsed in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake disaster. > In China, the term tofu dregs (the ... Overall, while high speed is great and I wish the US could have faster construction, it’s better to have a project that’s high quality, built properly and will last. That second part - quality and built properly cannot be said for a large number of China’s big infrastructure projects. It’s all about speed and showing “look what we can do” without regard to whether or not it’ll last into the next decade. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/225 "2024-11-18T18:06:57Z")
![Brooklyn-Arches-New-Public-Space-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/4/64676d8e96c57f4914ffa2c7fc3024efb827e166.jpeg) > **[More public space opens under the Brooklyn Bridge in Manhattan](https://www.6sqft.com/more-public-space-opens-under-the-brooklyn-bridge-in-manhattan/)** > > The latest phase of "The Arches" opened on Monday, adding 15,000 square feet of public space to an area closed off for more than a decade ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/226 "2024-11-18T18:42:20Z")
Take a look at those beautiful stone arches; and also that perfectly laid brick wall behind the arches. The Another perfect example of the Vitruvian Triad: usefulness, beauty and solidity. Definitely no “TOFU-DREG” here… 🤣 🙃 **BTW- that Tofu-Dreg link above was a great post by above by ALC11.** > [@Pedestrianize NYC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/223): > > It’s worth noting while their speed is impressive and admirable, there’s a major issue plaguing their construction - poor quality. A lot of work is done poorly and there is often corruption involved in the process. More often than not, durability and quality are overlooked for the sake of speed. There’s a lot of media coverage of the poor quality. [https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-global-mega-projects-infrastructure-falling-apart-11674166180](https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-global-mega-projects-infrastructure-falling-apart-11674166180) ([Paywall Bypass](https://archive.ph/tw6qp)) There’s even a term for poor-qu… ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/227 "2024-11-19T15:01:19Z")
On a side note, shoddy originally described a fabric made from discards in fabric manufacturing. It was a term describing what kind of fabric cheap clothing was made from. ---
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/228 "2024-12-03T20:14:54Z")
Citibike dock going in at Pershing Square Plaza East ![IMG_1933](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/4/943c375869a6546c663dc87d8717f108251dfd5b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JohnFloreville](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/johnfloreville/32/173234_2.png) [@JohnFloreville](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JohnFloreville)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/229 "2024-12-09T18:57:13Z")
> **[Future of Fifth Partnership Receives Funding To Transform Fifth Avenue](https://www.newyorkyimby.com/2024/12/future-of-fifth-partnership-receives-152-7-million-in-funding-to-transform-fifth-avenue-in-midtown-manhattan.html)** > > New York City recently issued $152.7 million in funding to the Future of Fifth Partnership, an organization which aims to transform Fifth Avenue. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/230 "2024-12-10T14:22:32Z")
Hmm now watch that money get frittered away. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/231 "2024-12-13T03:35:23Z")
The pedestrian plaza is now open. [https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1hccryf/pershing\_square\_plaza\_east\_side\_finally\_opens\_up/?rdt=51376](https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1hccryf/pershing_square_plaza_east_side_finally_opens_up/?rdt=51376) ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/232 "2025-02-04T17:29:51Z")
> **[City unveils design of new Hudson Square public plaza | 6sqft](https://www.6sqft.com/city-unveils-design-of-new-hudson-square-public-plaza/)** > > Located on the corner of Hudson and Houston Streets, Hudson-Houston Plaza is a 0.26-acre public area that will provide much-needed open space to Hudson Square. ![Hudson-Houston-Plaza-Final-Site-Plan.jpg.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/2/82e9ef55d1bc3cb8926eeb1f1948f53fca1d8dc1.jpeg) a bit meh… ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/233 "2025-02-05T13:20:32Z")
Brooklyn Bridge Park new entrance pavilion ![IMG_9521](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/1/91ff32c39476d67f0bbc4882e019c67b1ae39e00.jpeg) ![IMG_9520](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/e/ceca3efd56b097b03c322c0cd8271bdbb7931b84.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/234 "2025-02-05T14:57:51Z")
^ Not very attractive but perhaps leafing trees will help. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/235 "2025-02-05T15:37:45Z")
have to admit that it is top heavy - the walls are nicely clad in stone, with round corners - the roof looks like an after thought ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/236 "2025-02-11T17:25:41Z")
> **[NYC to Spend $57M on 42nd Street Pedestrian Safety Improvements](https://commercialobserver.com/2025/02/new-york-city-42nd-street-pedestrian-safety-improvements/)** > > The city's Department of Transportation is set to move forward with a $57 million project to revamp a stretch of 42nd Street. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/237 "2025-02-12T15:04:54Z")
Beyond the paywall - > **[New York City to Spend $57M on 42nd Street Pedestrian Safety Improvem…](https://archive.ph/3yyoP)** > > archived 11 Feb 2025 19:38:16 UTC ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/238 "2025-03-09T23:24:36Z")
![IMG_0550](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/1/a18f837b341cf6785ef07ef799a7bbd4c495c410.jpeg) ![IMG_0553](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/1/e14b65121ec4dcf831030d02a8ef5a5f6572ccc5.jpeg) ![IMG_0556](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/d/1db097145b1943abad0bf2e641421374c12ef236.jpeg) I bet this place will become super popular with tourists (even more than now) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/239 "2025-03-10T15:23:12Z")
Can we please herd them all there? ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/240 "2025-03-10T15:51:47Z")
Herd them all, put them under that hole that sucks them back to where they came from ![Screenshot 2025-03-10 at 11.26.55 AM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/7/87c261b7dc234d2df60619ca97339c06513d8927.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/241 "2025-03-10T20:08:31Z")
Even in jest this humor is dark. Tourists are a major part of the city’s economy. You don’t have to like them but you should appreciate what they do for us all. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/242 "2025-03-11T13:54:01Z")
Clog the sidewalks in clueless groups? ---
**Author:** ![Rangerparks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ea924/32.png) [@Rangerparks](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Rangerparks)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/243 "2025-03-11T15:22:44Z")
Why doesn’t the Bronx get any of these pedestrianization projects? Always Manhattan and Brooklyn… [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519.md?page=13)