# Pedestrianize NYC **URL:** \ **Category:** New York\ **Created:** [July 13, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519 "2022-07-13T17:18:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/203 "2024-10-14T14:27:36Z")
DOT is slow walking the pedestrian path on the QB59EK Bridge. (pun intended) > **[Pols, advocates demand opening of Queensboro Bridge pedestrian path | amNewYork](https://www.amny.com/transit/queensboro-bridge-pedestrian-path-rally-10132024/)** > > Queens elected officials and advocates are renewing calls for the city to open up a dedicated pedestrian path on the Ed Koch-Queensboro Bridge, hoping to nip ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/204 "2024-10-14T18:21:57Z")
FULTON MALL STREETSCAPE RECONSTRUCTION ![IMG_7462](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/1/4126e0854333d4cb9b26e8191805d8f41dd50ee7.jpeg) ![IMG_7460](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/f/bfe0db23f46d7951575e2e32006b226ac22ded27.jpeg) ![IMG_7463](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/7/27439dd3d9f338e5b1d6c63b5c4def4b7ced2064.jpeg) look like they are expanding the theme further out from Fulton: 80-100 FLATBUSH sidewalk ![IMG_7466](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/f/6f1fab611920c031920a2cb49c6afba5410c881e.jpeg) And also here: > [@NEW YORK | 11 Hoyt Street | 620 FT | 52 FLOORS](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-11-hoyt-street-620-ft-52-floors/579/196): > > They’ve done some really nice things with the sidewalk and planters (not really shown here), but what strikes me most is how they somehow managed to make the actual _curbs_ wavy on the two side streets. I didn’t even realize that was legal. (Is it?) > > ![PXL_20230120_191518008](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/0/a010e65743f72dd05293328dfd0a0bda4166846d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/205 "2024-10-15T13:50:10Z")
Rule #1 is fire trucks have to be able to get through. ---
**Author:** ![Renato\_Iodice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/renato_iodice/32/30105_2.png) [@Renato\_Iodice](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Renato_Iodice)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/206 "2024-10-15T16:13:06Z")
This is something that should be extended to the whole area. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/207 "2024-10-16T00:25:27Z")
Looks like that’s the plan - one development at a time ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/208 "2024-10-18T04:30:41Z")
> **[Field Operations, Sam Schwartz, and Arcadis release vision for widening...](https://www.archpaper.com/2024/10/field-operations-sam-schwartz-arcadis-fifth-avenue/)** > > Field Operations, Sam Schwartz, and Arcadis are overhauling Manhattan’s Fifth Avenue. The design team has ideated how to pedestrianize slivers of New York’s primary commercial corridor between Bryant Park and Central Park in order to boost foot... ![Future-of-Fifth_Birds-Eye_Corridor_FO](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/a/9a6337a0247485dc0448666a12da0433ff9e1700.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/209 "2024-10-18T21:34:08Z")
They knocked off a bus lane and protected bike lane for additional space for cars. What an absolute joke. > **['Surrender': Adams Cuts Bus, Bike Lanes From Fifth Ave. Plan - Streetsblog...](https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2024/10/17/surrender-adams-cuts-bus-bike-lanes-from-fifth-ave-plan)** > > Fifth Avenue will get more sidewalk, but bus riders and cyclists have to make way for the almighty car. ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/210 "2024-10-19T00:33:49Z")
Not only that but the one bus lane left will be constantly full of cars and trucks as they go from one car lane on one side of the street, to the other car lan on the other side. Many will just say they “need to make a turn on the next upcoming block” and then probably won’t be able to fit in on the other side, backing up bus traffic. Even if they legitimately need to turn, it will be a nuisance. You can’t just cut across 2 lanes of traffic in one go, you have to do each lane separately, so cars will sit/cruise in the bus lane until they find an opening (or drivers will lie and just keep going in the bus lane since they’ll have plausible deniability that they couldn’t find an opening). 🙄 The three years till construction is a bit frustrating, but at least that definitely gives them time to fix the design for the better. ---
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/211 "2024-10-24T00:38:27Z")
Finally starting to see the surface progress at east side Pershing Square Plaza ![B26E4ACB-61AD-422B-B1A7-82362FFE9BFA_1_105_c](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/5/45e9adf3423f5a0066d7e7428df6e9ff38e06612.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/212 "2024-10-24T04:21:15Z")
is that a recent photo? If so, they are blowing past the October 11 deadline I noted here: > [@NEW YORK | Park Avenue Redesign](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-park-avenue-redesign/18202/26): > > Earlier today - this is the east side of Park Avenue between 41st and 42nd streets I wonder if it will reopen in time for the deadline two months from now. ---
**Author:** ![abot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/abot/32/122020_2.png) [@abot](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/abot)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/213 "2024-10-24T05:12:19Z")
Yep, that was today. No surprise, as there have been months at a time where this site has sat dormant. Fortunately, work appears to be wrapping up quickly in the past few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/214 "2024-10-30T21:41:58Z")
> **[Jaywalking is now legal in New York City](https://www.6sqft.com/jaywalking-is-now-officially-legal-in-new-york-city/)** > > The law aims to address racial disparities in enforcement, as 90 percent of jaywalking tickets in 2023 were issued to Black and Latino New Yorkers. Has anybody ever been fined for jaywalking? ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/215 "2024-10-31T14:39:22Z")
My mom was many years ago and she cussed a blue streak! ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/216 "2024-10-31T15:43:01Z")
I was once almost ticketed for jaywalking in Los Angeles. The LAPD cop gave me a stern warning instead. The local constabulary’s core constituency is cars, not people. It’s not like that in New York. ---
**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/217 "2024-10-31T16:52:46Z")
![IMG_7716](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/0/00d985fe36c5b2c1bfdf3a6ae0a3a5f15a52d6eb.jpeg) ![IMG_7718](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/b/6bd7d21b216ca0d95121cc69a2955ecd564abe26.jpeg) From today ---
**Author:** ![AntonioL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/antoniol/32/139225_2.png) [@AntonioL](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AntonioL)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/218 "2024-10-31T17:25:12Z")
How did this take 3 years? ---
**Author:** ![Mao\_mao\_ox](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mao_mao_ox/32/190099_2.png) [@Mao\_mao\_ox](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mao_mao_ox)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/219 "2024-10-31T18:36:00Z")
Everything here takes far more time than it should ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/220 "2024-10-31T19:15:20Z")
> [@Mao\_mao\_ox](#): > > Everything here takes far more time than it should **You guys are hitting on an unfortunate truth that we in the USA choose to ignore for obvious reasons.** Bravo for your honest assessments. I follow construction, architecture & infrastructure projects in China on various websites: the difference in speed, quality, complexity, size, efficiency, even beauty is mind boggling. The AEC industry in America - by comparison - is way behind the times. I see, know it and accept it for what it is - a more lax, less industrious, less capable society. Let us not be in denial; and embrace the mediocrity that is the American AEC industry. 🥴 I still think USA is great - warts and all… 🤩 _PS… I was thinking of starting an USA vs China thread on infrastructure & architecture._ **Then agsin - maybe best we don’t. 🤣** ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/221 "2024-10-31T19:20:39Z")
That makes perfect sense, @infoshare. As China is a century behind the US in terms of worker safety, labor rights, environmental protection, property rights and public participation in the political process, China can build infrastructure today as quickly as the US could a hundred years ago. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519/222 "2024-10-31T20:37:44Z")
> [@Waymond\_Womano](#): > > As China is a century behind the US in terms of worker safety, labor rights, environmental protection, property rights and public participation in the political process, C Yes, I agree - there are many socio economic factors. My intention was to point out one main factor: the speed, efficiency, and overall better capabilities in the Chinese AEC sector. A basic side-by-side comparison of how we build today in the USA, compared to what is done today in China. The differences are well worth looking at: and fun to observe as well. Here is another example - truly mind boggling. Ten story building built in **ONE DAY…** [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/9/996acfff9ce41d18ee69562641f08cebb37b3083.jpeg "10-storey residential building in China constructed in a day") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRjGVS1FIwk) [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/pedestrianize-nyc/21519.md?page=12)