# Old Skyscraper Renderings and Construction
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**Created:** [November 29, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199 "2016-11-29T00:43:35Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/149 "2023-02-28T02:21:55Z")
**Mellon Bank Center, Philadelphia**
Early model based off sketch (@Mackensen posted another perspective of this same model)
Images from the Philadelphia Inquirer when the tower was first revealed in August 1986, shows the 880 foot 62-story design
Two new images found in _Kohn Pedersen Fox 1976-1986 by Paul Goldenberger_
The models show the final design, but still with the 880 foot figure. This updated model appears on the same model city layout seen above. I was not aware about this, this is why these books are highly significant to me
Finally, an elevation from the same book. Final design at 880 feet, the roof height of One Liberty Place just under the spire is 885 feet. By 1987, the final design was shortened to 824 feet, and in October 1989 the tower topped out
Model of the final design
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/150 "2023-02-28T04:43:20Z")
Computer, enhance
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### Author:  [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/151 "2023-02-28T19:03:33Z")
Very nice pictures, but I miss construction photos of their projects in the books.
Since I collect historical photos of major North American cities, I might also have construction photos from Philadelphia.
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/152 "2023-03-01T01:28:38Z")
Please post if found!
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### Author:  [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)
#### Post date: [April 2, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/153 "2023-04-02T20:06:21Z")
This is the third post from my book “Bau der Wolkenkratzer” by O. Rappold it is the first German language book on the subject. It appeared since 1890 many interesting articles in the specialized press but these were only short descriptions.
Height comparison of skyscrapers to a typical three-story townhouse in German cities. My audience was thrilled when I presented this as an introduction to my talk. Yes, I gave a lecture in 2015 on how skyscrapers used to be built.
Foundation from the Hobart Building in San Francisco
This base of a corner column of the MetLife Building weighed 11 tons.
Wind bracing of the tower from MetLife Buildings.
Ceiling construction
Construction equipment and caisson plan of the Trinity Building addition, for the Municipal Building which cost a total of $11 million, $1.5 million was for the caisson work alone.
Gillender Building floor plan
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### Author:  [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/154 "2023-05-14T21:36:30Z")
Even though no skyscraper was ever planned in my homeland, I am posting here the official drawing of Klingenthal’s town hall from 1913. In 1913 the building was already under construction, why the picture was published only in this year I do not know.
I would have a new title for this topic not just old skyscrapers but old buildings.
Old Buildings Renderings and Construction
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [May 18, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/155 "2023-05-18T02:08:49Z")
Liberty Place model 1987 iteration
One Liberty Place rising into the skyline 1986
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2023, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/156 "2023-05-28T04:11:16Z")
Lorraine DeLuca on Flickr
One Liberty Place 1986 and 1987
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [June 9, 2023, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/157 "2023-06-09T13:45:45Z")
[US Library of Congress](https://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3c36071/)
Rockefeller Center
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/158 "2023-06-12T12:18:29Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9OAWA0aZkY)
If anyone here is near Paris, please go to this exhibition. I’m trying to see good shots of all of these models, especially the Comcast Technology Center model. It’s an early model during the design process, shows an early unfinished iteration of the tower. And now possibly a decade old
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/159 "2023-07-05T13:19:10Z")
> [@The Philadelphia Skyline Photo Collection](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/the-philadelphia-skyline-photo-collection/16863/244):
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> [https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzASLfsq0Y/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CtzASLfsq0Y/)
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### Author:  [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/160 "2023-07-05T16:59:49Z")
I’m late to the party, but these renderings are mind-blowing. This is one of my favorite never-completed projects in the world, but somehow I’ve never seen this asymmetrical design before.
Surely there must be a developer out there salivating over the possibility of adding several dozen stories of high end apartments in a super desirable neighborhood. Considering the flagging office market, a residential developer could surely get ahold of this building for a relative bargain.
I would love to see how it would look to flip the asymmetrical design — with the mass of the tower set back from the park, giving the Metropolitan Life clocktower room to breathe and preserving sightlines from further up Madison.
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/161 "2023-07-05T17:29:28Z")
Per: [What Would the Unfinished Metlife North Building in New York Have Looked Like? | ArchDaily](https://www.archdaily.com/975817/what-would-the-unfinished-metlife-north-building-in-new-york-have-looked-like)
> **[Gallery of What Would the Unfinished Metlife North Building in New York Have...](https://www.archdaily.com/975817/what-would-the-unfinished-metlife-north-building-in-new-york-have-looked-like/6197c104f91c812239000001-what-would-the-unfinished-metlife-north-building-in-new-york-have-looked-like-image)**
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> Image 8 of 9 from gallery of What Would the Unfinished Metlife North Building in New York Have Looked Like?. Imagen de fondo wikipedia user: Beyond My Ken Lincesed under CC BY-SA 4.0. Image Cortesía de 90Grados Arquitectura-Renderings
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Unbuilt\_Architecture/comments/jwq03j/the\_original\_metropolitan\_life\_north\_building\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unbuilt_Architecture/comments/jwq03j/the_original_metropolitan_life_north_building_was/)
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^^^
Unbuilt
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/162 "2023-07-05T18:22:33Z")
Only unbuilt
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Unbuilt\_Architecture/comments/jy5eq6/proposed\_skyscraper\_for\_columbus\_circle\_new\_york/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=mweb3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/Unbuilt_Architecture/comments/jy5eq6/proposed_skyscraper_for_columbus_circle_new_york/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
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### Author:  [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/163 "2023-07-06T13:40:17Z")
MetLife going all the way up would have probably attracted more office towers to that area. Makes me wonder what might have been.
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2023, 2:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/164 "2023-07-06T14:01:26Z")
Per: [Visionary and Cancelled Projects & Proposals | Discussion - #37 by Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/visionary-and-cancelled-projects-proposals-discussion/18604/37)
Wow unbuilt
[ ](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/0/c0472f614885e6cd193d6197d32f6efbadafbbd7.jpeg)
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> **[Mandeville Place — STUDIOpractice Architects](https://www.studiopractice.com/mandeville-place)**
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> Located a few blocks west of Philadelphia’s urban core, on the Schuylkill River, Mandeville Place is designed to offer an urban alternative to the suburban residence.
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/165 "2023-08-16T00:37:10Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZmVzDAmYQ)
No where better to post, but here’s my photos from the Skyscraper Museum
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### Author:  [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2023, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/166 "2023-08-16T13:54:58Z")
> **[Queens Museum | The Panorama of the City of New York](https://queensmuseum.org/exhibition/panorama-of-the-city-of-new-york/)**
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> Queens Museum | The Panorama of the City of New York
If anyone hasn’t been. As far as I can tell it’s free admission. 🙂
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### Author:  [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/167 "2023-08-17T19:13:54Z")
7 World Trade Center rendering
> **[1987-07.pdf](https://www.architecturalrecord.com/ext/resources/archives/backissues/1987-07.pdf?552110400)**
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> 115.99 MB
> **[Search Results | Architectural Record](https://www.architecturalrecord.com/search?Submit=Submit&author=&datatype=&edition=&end_date=&exclude_datatypes%5B%5D=video&page=6&q=Liberty%2BPlace&search_within_results=false&start_date=&utf8=%E2%9C%93)**
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> Architectural Record is the #1 source for architecture news, modern architecture, design architecture and green architecture information for all building types.
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### Author:  [@Springboss123\_456](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Springboss123_456)
#### Post date: [August 17, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/old-skyscraper-renderings-and-construction/3199/168 "2023-08-17T20:43:55Z")
> **[Seven World Trade Center, New York - World Construction Network](https://www.worldconstructionnetwork.com/projects/world_trade/)**
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> Construction of the building set to replace Seven World Trade Center (WTC) was completed in May 2006. The original office…
Rendering for the modern 7 WTC
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