# NYC Underground **URL:** \ **Category:** New York\ **Created:** [November 5, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673 "2021-11-05T22:09:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/282 "2025-11-26T01:47:48Z")
Indeed. I think CTrail also plans to base a number of them at their New Haven yard for use on their new Hartford Line. Hopefully the order means we could see expansion of the service. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/283 "2025-11-26T02:20:32Z")
> [@BA178](#): > > their new Hartford Line. Some will be allocated to that line. They will also run on the Danbury and Waterbury branches as well. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/284 "2025-11-26T02:30:29Z")
Same, this is news to me šŸ˜‚ ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/285 "2025-11-26T20:40:46Z")
The PATH has published a photo album showing a number of renovation projects currently underway. [[Album] Nov 2025 - PATH Forward update ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/3/63c6ec407a5d6a279f54c4c0ff6ccc72b8961183.jpeg "Nov 2025 - PATH Forward update") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/panynj/albums/72177720330165906/) ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/286 "2025-12-03T21:34:00Z")
New faregates were unveiled. They arenā€™t ready yet but the pilot installations are underway. With the inclusion of wider ADA-compatible ones, the door that people commonly use to fare evade can go away, since wheelchair and stroller users can use the wide gate. > **[MTA installing new fare gates to stop turnstile jumping](https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/traffic_and_transit/2025/12/02/installation-underway-on-new-subway-fare-gates)** > > The MTA is testing fare arrays from four companies at 20 stations. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/287 "2025-12-04T14:49:47Z")
The doors are emergency exits. They will not go away. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/288 "2025-12-04T16:46:42Z")
Wrong. They _are_ going away. Those doors are a major sourcw of fare evasion. The MTA required design candidates to be useable in emergency evacuations. > The new fare gates would also replace the emergency exit gate. They would facilitate emergency evacuations, as well as be wide enough for wheelchairs to get through. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/289 "2025-12-19T21:32:47Z")
New faregates are now live. [https://www.mta.info/article/testing-modern-fare-gate-designs](https://www.mta.info/article/testing-modern-fare-gate-designs) [https://www.mta.info/project/modern-fare-gates](https://www.mta.info/project/modern-fare-gates) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/3/334c206033a82aa67185b48e98c6f4b454da6a81.jpeg "MTA unveils new turnstiles to crack down on fare evaders") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Nvc3bd98M) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/e/beec99705ba2f137023e11edd07ddb88de591e48.jpeg "MTA unveils new 'fare gate' for select subway stations") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRKleNGsP78) And hereā€™s stuff regarding PATH: They announced itā€™s basically impossible to make the NYC stations ADA accessible and will be updating a feasibility study to reflect current conditions. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/0/f000657368ac79bc471401b8d952c443417dd16e.jpeg) And an extension to EWR is low priority. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/c/bccfc38e4da63abba9e0d4830bc110d77df2ccc3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/290 "2025-12-20T17:18:49Z")
The NY Governor shot down a bill that would require a _minimum_ of two people to crew subway trains, even for services that currently have one person (such as the Shuttles). This is good news especially for the IBX, which can theoretically be fully automated since no mandatory crew requirements are needed. [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/nyregion/hochul-mta-conductors-twu.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/nyregion/hochul-mta-conductors-twu.html) ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/291 "2025-12-21T14:17:30Z")
After they already got rid of half the station agents. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/292 "2025-12-21T16:33:50Z")
That has nothing to do with train crews. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/293 "2025-12-22T02:05:59Z")
It has to do with using human beings for service. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/294 "2025-12-26T22:51:07Z")
The MTA has ordered TBMs for the 2nd phase of the SAS project. The same company that built the ones used for the Hudson Tunnel project will be building the MTA machine. Tunneling will start in 2027 and while the TBM is being built, preliminary work will continue along with setting up access points to insert and remove it. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/3/73874ff19685c20a04833aec2eecf2b63a0dec67.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/2/920bd704143e2925527b56cffd0b8717fed66121.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/295 "2025-12-30T04:10:18Z")
> **[Subway surfing deaths persist despite efforts of MTA, NYPD](https://gothamist.com/news/subway-surfing-deaths-persist-despite-efforts-of-mta-nypd)** > > Subway surfing deaths have remained roughly the same for the past three years. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2026, 2:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/296 "2026-01-02T14:53:31Z")
Darwin. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/297 "2026-01-07T21:45:23Z")
> **[True story: Chambers Street station is finally getting fixed](https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/the-chambers-street-subway-station-is-getting-a-much-needed-facelift-010626)** > > After years of delays, the glow-up is real. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/298 "2026-01-08T05:25:05Z")
The Chambers Street upgrade was postponed due to Congestion Pricing delays. Now that weā€™re a year in, it seems the MTA has finally resumed the project. In addition, numerous historical finishes such as the old tiles will be restored. It seems itā€™s going to be a much-needed complete top-down renovation. > Under the revived plan, the station will receive historically sensitive repairs to restore its original character while finally bringing some modern basics along for the ride. The scope includes replacing stairs, building new track walls, installing fresh artwork and restoring damaged finishes throughout the cavernous platforms and mezzanines. The MTA also plans to clean and preserve the stationā€™s signature decorative elements, like its eagle plaques, so riders can see the craftsmanship that earned the stop its landmark status in the first place. They ought to do Bowery next. As that and Chambers are some of the most decrepit although people are more aware of Chambers. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/299 "2026-01-08T15:10:58Z")
I didnā€™t realize it was landmarked. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/300 "2026-01-08T20:19:47Z")
A lot of the really old stations are. Almost all the original 28 IRT stations and several later-built dual-contract BMT and subsequent city-built IND ones are landmarked, particularly due to their historical significance, architecture, and ornamentation. The article also makes a mistake, as the ā€œEagle Plaquesā€ are in the Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall 4/5/6 stop. Either that or that station will also get a major upgrade, as it is connected to the Chambers Street station, which has Brooklyn Bridge terracotta plaques. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/301 "2026-01-08T23:23:33Z")
I was wondering about the Eagle Plaques. Iā€™ve never taken the 456 to there. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673.md?page=16)