# NYC Underground

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673>\
**Category:** New York\
**Created:** [November 5, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673 "2021-11-05T22:09:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/222 "2025-07-22T02:17:19Z")

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new trains rolled out on the “B” today

[[Album] MTA Announces First R211 Train Now Serving the Bronx ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/b/9b8bb225ab9c68843e8e4e5cd1158f549a779a0e.jpeg "MTA Announces First R211 Train Now Serving the Bronx") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/albums/72177720327695497/with/54670104583)

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**Author:** ![treebeard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/treebeard/32/173534_2.png) [@treebeard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/treebeard)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/223 "2025-07-31T07:04:54Z")

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IMHO, the new platform barriers are ridiculous. They do nothing. I can understand that they don’t want the full height walls with auto doors like in London. Too expensive. But something similar to those in Taipei would be excellent.

 ![OIP-391168705](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/b/db10d1f5d9a80ed51b6008ed28ba38aaa37beafb.jpeg)

 ![OIP-1145060193](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/e/4e367c88aec0d19022268eb49b6925aa11dae5c3.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![NYCityBoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/nycityboy/32/25326_2.png) [@NYCityBoy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NYCityBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/224 "2025-07-31T13:16:03Z")

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I find the stainless steel platform barriers to be a smart, low cost solution to providing more safety on the platforms. Right now people stand by the columns for added safety and security. These barriers expand those safe zones exponentially.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/225 "2025-07-31T14:08:39Z")

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I agree. Those Taipei models would be marred, painted and covered with stickers right away here.

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**Author:** ![rbrome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rbrome/32/5724_2.png) [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/226 "2025-07-31T14:23:32Z")

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Traditional platform screen doors work well on systems with uniform rolling stock with all the doors in exactly the same place on all trains. And stations with perfectly straight and level platforms. Newer systems are like this. NYC is more challenging for these reasons. London has been slow to adopt platform screen doors for the exact same reasons.

With that said, there are some non-traditional designs for platform screen doors that could potentially work in NYC, such as sets of ropes that retract upward:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/6/96d3dc6509cbc495d5e3a2f75982d7dd38b201fd.jpeg "Rope screen door at VLS metro station, Bulgaria by SKD HI-TEC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOESYHlp1bo)

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/227 "2025-07-31T15:06:52Z")

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It has been considered… extensively in a 4000-page report. The costs and feasibility (including ADA compliance) for each line and all 472 stations were considered. To not allow perfect to be the enemy of good, they went with this much cheaper option which by and large does the job of making people feel safer and not likely to be pushed onto the tracks. It’s not ideal but it will have to do and is pragmatic for a system that hasn’t been able to get into a good state of repair for decades. Adding mechanical/electrical doors to a system prone to flooding and an abusive populace just doesn’t seem like a good idea.

[https://www.mta.info/document/73241](https://www.mta.info/document/73241)

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/228 "2025-07-31T20:25:48Z")

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The MTA awarded a design contract to Jacobs/HDR for the IBX light rail line and includes surveys and other preliminary work that will allow for the project to advance.

> **[MTA awards $166M design contract for Interborough Express](https://www.6sqft.com/mta-awards-166m-design-contract-for-interborough-express/)**
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> The MTA awarded a contract to begin the Interborough Express preliminary design, including surveys, investigations, and inspections to advance the project.

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**Author:** ![Dior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/dior/32/164097_2.png) [@Dior](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Dior)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/229 "2025-08-01T14:40:54Z")

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queenslink next

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/230 "2025-08-01T18:25:14Z")

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The NY Governor’s office has made an official announcement on the IBX: It’s happening.

> **[Governor Hochul Announces Interborough Express Advancing from Planning to...](https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-hochul-announces-interborough-express-advancing-planning-active-phase)**
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> Governor Hochul announced that the engineering and design phase of the Interborough Express (IBX) has commenced, the next step in the development of the transformative transit project.

Here’s an included (but rather unpolished) render:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/f/af8e73fb26477501068d073aa159c88a756e59ec.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/231 "2025-08-01T19:02:54Z")

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Now this should be something where screen doors are considered in my opinion. Since the cars and stations will be completely new, it should be easier to standardize and plan for. Also it kinda looks hazardous for little kids to just run onto the tracks.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/232 "2025-08-01T19:07:46Z")

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At this time, it is completely unknown _what_ the actual stations and rolling stock will look like. At one point, it was hinted that they would potentially consider automated, driverless high-level boarding light metro equipment (which could allow for screen doors) during a public hearing, but until the actual design phase is concluded, we won’t know if they’ll go with low-floor or high-floor equipment and what additional features stations may have.

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/233 "2025-08-01T19:11:32Z")

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TW100 will ensure it will not be driverless.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/234 "2025-08-03T00:02:16Z")

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That got a bit more likely. In a rare positive move by the Trump presidency, federal funding for the Queensway (park that’d prevent a transit line from being built) just got its federal funding yanked.

> **[Trump Just Ripped Out the QueensWay's Heart—And Maybe Saved the QueensLink?](https://hellgatenyc.com/queensway-dead-queenslink-alive/)**
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> A transformative project that would bring a new subway line and a park to Queens just got a lifeline—and may have a champion in the next mayor of New York City.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 3:50am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/235 "2025-08-03T03:50:16Z")

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No one who is alive today will live to see the new Penn Station, Interborough Express, Metro North access to Penn Station, QueensLink or Second Avenue Subway extension.

It’s very sad.

Just live for today and be happy with what we have.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/236 "2025-08-03T17:23:32Z")

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Major accessibility upgrades are coming to 36th St on the R Train in Brooklyn.

 ![4u15ph5ft7gf1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e5677ebcba762a3d01cd4274305aa1b44830bbbf.jpeg)

Screenshots of the additions and upgrades pulled from [a Community Board 7 meeting](https://www.youtube.com/live/hCyVo4LpnsQ):

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/d/7d497ed820ed0726f1259f8833457a62c1d38a46.jpeg)

 ![9EPpeNt](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/0/f0c9d661597320017d36e8933591c1f08780bdd2.jpeg)

 ![WmliwWc](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/d/bd94ef7df06a9d33019cd46cb5fad661549d6f77.jpeg)

 ![fV1Kky7](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/c/9c1ff38785c957014462596ad767ef41e94d1878.jpeg)

 ![3DTvTgS](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/0/b097f45d4b3175f3fc3a3d305d10a3dc921c6d31.jpeg)

 ![snvAggK](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/a/1a53984b68d9299703bfe2c59eff185e4690963e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2025, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/237 "2025-08-04T13:54:01Z")

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Much needed. Such a drag trying to schlep crap from Costco down the stairs.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/238 "2025-08-08T05:26:57Z")

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maybe try buying less crap at Costco, @stache

or not be so cheap as to not pay for an Uber/Lyft if you do manage to purchase a surplus of crap

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2025, 9:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/239 "2025-08-08T09:51:39Z")

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Try to not be bitter. I know that’s a challenge for you.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/240 "2025-08-12T01:52:12Z")

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> **[Central Park Train Station Gets a New Name](https://www.westsiderag.com/2025/08/11/central-park-train-station-gets-a-new-name)**
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> Governor Kathy Hochul signs legislation renaming the subway station on the 2/3 lines at 110 Street. Photo by Marc A.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/nyc-underground/20673/241 "2025-08-12T15:41:09Z")

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[MTA Announces Last Month Was Safest July in NYC](https://www.mta.info/press-release/mta-announces-last-month-was-safest-july-nyc-subway-history)

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