# NEW YORK | WTC Transportation Hub | 150 FT

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79>\
**Category:** Parks & Infrastructure\
**Created:** [June 11, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79 "2014-06-11T18:02:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snoee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/snoee/32/130844_2.png) [@Snoee](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Snoee)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/330 "2022-04-25T22:01:54Z")

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Ultimately, I wouldn’t be surprised as well if the mall sells for under 1 billion. The mall’s layout is a bit confusing and I will admit that the lack of a food court like Brookfield does make it less appealing.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/331 "2022-08-27T02:28:51Z")

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> **[Westfield Rakes World Trade Center Mall Tenant Over Coals](https://therealdeal.com/2022/08/26/westfield-rakes-another-wtc-mall-tenant-over-coals/)**
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> Unibail-Rodamco-Westfield is suing Retail Worx for more than $2.5 million due to missed rent and other payments.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/332 "2022-08-27T02:29:46Z")

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The oculus doesn’t have a food court? That seems like a bad plan

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/333 "2022-08-27T02:34:20Z")

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Nope, there’s not a “central” food court as one would find in a traditional mall, but there are several eateries along the various tunnel wings of the concourse, and of course the ground floor options at 3 and 4 WTC that are still considered as part of the mall.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/334 "2022-08-27T13:30:05Z")

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The old mall at WTC never did that well. It’s a transfer point and people don’t want to spend time there.

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**Author:** ![Nickfloyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/nickfloyo/32/173662_2.png) [@Nickfloyo](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Nickfloyo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/335 "2022-12-10T01:04:31Z")

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**Author:** ![Enterprise1701](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/enterprise1701/32/122836_2.png) [@Enterprise1701](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Enterprise1701)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/336 "2023-02-14T04:19:03Z")

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[https://www.instagram.com/p/CoSWXzxLg7u/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ=](https://www.instagram.com/p/CoSWXzxLg7u/?igshid=NDk5N2NlZjQ=)

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**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 7:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/337 "2023-02-14T07:28:51Z")

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There was a YouTube clip recently showing the floor of the Oculus crumbling. Sad.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/338 "2023-02-14T07:34:27Z")

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> **[Why Is the Floor of the Oculus Already Crumbling?](https://www.curbed.com/2023/02/wtc-oculus-floor-damage-calatrava-marble-chipping-repairs.html)**
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> Seven years in, the marble slabs are chipping and flaking. It didn’t have to be this way.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/339 "2023-02-14T14:00:02Z")

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Thought this was pretty cool. Various rail lines superimposed to show where they are at. In general how important the WTC and Fulton station are for transit.

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Credit: [Simon Kuestenmacher](https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1483743551594934272/photo/1)

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/340 "2023-02-14T14:35:08Z")

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Also Atlantic Center.

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/341 "2023-02-14T17:03:40Z")

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Pardon my bluntness, but why the fuck do so many websites have this blocker up. Do they really need to make a quick buck just for me to read an article for two mintues

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**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/342 "2023-02-14T17:34:50Z")

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Do you work for free?

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/343 "2023-02-15T02:00:43Z")

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We all work for money. But information can be provided freely

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/344 "2023-02-15T02:13:40Z")

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Egh, to a certain point, information coming from the internet isn’t always free, that’s why subscriptions exist and pages like Wikipedia are always asking for small donations, because they have bills to pay as well or they can not provide that information for “free” to the public. I generally did not know the Curbed article had a pay wall or blocker, I didn’t get one upon opening it or any other Curbed articles.

But on the Oculus topic, I agree with GSPLover, it’s sad how many problems have come up with this structure since it’s inception basically.

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**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/345 "2023-02-15T02:51:17Z")

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Curbed gives a monthly allowance on freebies now.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/346 "2023-02-16T15:36:43Z")

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I love this site:

> **[Textise - Text-Only and Accessibility Tools](https://www.textise.net/)**
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> Textise is an Internet tool that can create a text only version of almost any web page. Great for web research, accessibility, SEO and printing.

Copy and paste the url into the search bar and you get the text version of articles behind paywalls. it usually works but not every single time. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/347 "2023-08-08T00:47:50Z")

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/348 "2023-08-30T01:56:38Z")

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Anyone know if they ever plan on fixing the skylight or are they just going to leave that ugly looking tape on it for good? 4 billion dollars to just let it stay broken? It needs a good scrubbing and repainting as well. It’s such a marvelous structure it deserves to be well maintained.

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**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-wtc-transportation-hub-150-ft/79/349 "2023-08-30T14:04:55Z")

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It’s a money pit.

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