# NEW YORK | Where Would You Build A New Skyscraper?

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**Category:** New York\
**Created:** [May 7, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859 "2020-05-07T22:42:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shane\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/shane_keena/32/77791_2.png) [@Shane\_Keena](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Shane_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/83 "2022-03-31T04:10:17Z")

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I would also look at a few old, unbuilt proposals regarding automobile traffic and try and stitch them in there somehow. Just to get cars out of sight and out of mind, and maybe forge a few needed and fashionable seams in the skyline in the process.

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**Author:** ![F.Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@F.Wright](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/F.Wright)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/84 "2022-04-01T11:30:39Z")

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> **[ROOSEVELT ISLAND — NYC URBANISM](https://www.nycurbanism.com/brutalnyc/2017/2/15/eastwood)**
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> The city would drastically transform Roosevelt Island in the mid twentieth century, creating a pedestrian friendly community of stepped back concrete highrises...

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**Author:** ![oliverthom707](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@oliverthom707](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/oliverthom707)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/85 "2022-04-05T08:41:08Z")

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my design with a different and higher 🙂  
[.](https://hellodear.in/)

[.](https://teatv.ltd/)

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**Author:** ![F.Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@F.Wright](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/F.Wright)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/86 "2022-04-05T18:04:27Z")

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Here is another idea. What about making the island one big substation as well as moving all the shipyards from Brooklyn to free up all that real-estate? Then maybe build a super tall in Dumbo and re-develop all of that old industrial waterfront into mixed use buildings.

That honestly sounds like a very practical solution. Seattle just built a substation that looks pretty cool so it doesn’t even have to be ugly.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/87 "2022-06-14T23:24:57Z")

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[https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/affirmation-tower/41857](https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/affirmation-tower/41857)

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/88 "2022-06-30T13:26:52Z")

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/89 "2022-07-16T21:52:21Z")

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> **[ARCHVIZ PORTAFOLIO](https://www.behance.net/gallery/38247151/ARCHVIZ-PORTAFOLIO)**
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> PORTAFOLIO DE RENDERS

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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/90 "2022-08-08T18:57:59Z")

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In New York, where is the best location for the next tallest supertall in New York with a height of over 1800 feet?

Is it possible from a zoning standpoint to build a megatall on the MetLife (PanAm) Building site?

Would it be possible to build more supertalls in Brooklyn?

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/91 "2022-08-08T19:33:21Z")

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With a lot of vanity height, that could be in a number of different locations in Midtown and Lower Manhattan.

As to your second question, that is questionable, but I would say no without vanity height (and I always mention vanity height because it’s unusual in NY outside of spires). The entire building and podium is nearly 3 million sqft, even though the lot that the building stands on is zoned for 27 FAR through the MER, the building itself is already built with a FAR of 27 when calculated with the footprint of the building. Even if the building were demolished and a new tower went up, the possibility of finding air rights to purchase for a taller tower would be hard to find considering 175 Park Avenue has taken all usable air rights from the Grand Central lot.

It’s definitely possible to build more supertalls in Brooklyn, but only to a similar height of Brooklyn Tower. Planes flying into LaGuardia fly relatively close to the Brooklyn CBD, so it wouldn’t be ideal to build towers overly taller than Brooklyn Tower.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/92 "2022-08-18T13:54:29Z")

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Where is a good location for a megatall?

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**Author:** ![NYCityBoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/nycityboy/32/25326_2.png) [@NYCityBoy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NYCityBoy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/93 "2022-08-18T14:35:48Z")

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34th Street and the West Side Highway.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/94 "2022-08-18T14:58:25Z")

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@007 If floor area and lot area allowed for it, very limited areas/developments located in Midtown.

@NYCityBoy I don’t see that site (the lot between HY Phase II and Javits) as being a contender for a megatall, that site was not included in the zoning resolution when the entire area was rezoned. If it is rezoned (which it will be eventually) all maps and depictions show a single commercial tower and 2 residential towers, the commercial one most likely only being a short supertall or a tall skyscraper.

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**Author:** ![NYCityBoy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/nycityboy/32/25326_2.png) [@NYCityBoy](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NYCityBoy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/95 "2022-08-18T15:32:25Z")

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I was commenting from an aesthetic perspective. I think that location would provide visibility and help it stand out from the other towers–similar to the 80 South Street property.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/96 "2022-08-18T15:53:49Z")

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And where exactly in Midtown?

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/97 "2022-08-18T16:06:15Z")

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I don’t particularly think a megatall would need to be fully visible to stand out considering it’d be 700ft taller than 30 Hudson Yards, which is 1270ft tall.

@007 Where floor area and lot area allow for it, there are no exact locations in Midtown, that’s why I said if.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/98 "2022-08-23T13:40:34Z")

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/99 "2022-08-27T14:27:24Z")

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/100 "2022-08-29T02:48:34Z")

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@mcart I would be very elated if there are plans to build a 1700 ft tower somewhere in midtown. My guess would be probably the PABT development or even the 418 11th Avenue site (since we haven’t seen the other proposals yet) 🙂

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/101 "2022-09-09T14:29:19Z")

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Entisar Tower 1870 feet tall for the 57th Street

[https://gstatic.me/uploads/building\_photos/1b0f3ae253254b81a430f4d9e6eb8918.medium.webp](https://gstatic.me/uploads/building_photos/1b0f3ae253254b81a430f4d9e6eb8918.medium.webp)

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**Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-where-would-you-build-a-new-skyscraper/16859/102 "2022-09-10T19:36:00Z")

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> **[NEW YORK | 2 World Trade Center | 411m | 1350ft | 88 fl...](https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/new-york-2-world-trade-center-411m-1350ft-88-fl-pro.746086/page-399#post-180207892)**
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> observation: the plot for the 5 wtc was the deutsche bank building, it was thick
> no more thick buildings for lower manhatan 😭 😭 
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche\_Bank\_Building

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