# NEW YORK | The Orchard (27-48 Jackson Ave) | 823 FT | 68 FLOORS (Queens' Tallest)

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**Created:** [March 24, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999 "2021-03-24T01:22:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/1 "2021-03-24T01:22:12Z")

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Height and Elevation  
Latitude (NAD 83): 40° 44’ 52.04" N

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Longitude (NAD 83): 73° 56’ 21.91" W  
Datum: NAD 83  
City: Queens  
State: NY  
Nearest County: Queens Proposed

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Site Elevation: 15  
Structure Height: 811  
Total Height (AMSL): 826

Study (ASN): 2021-AEA-2657-OE

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Prior Study:  
Status: Work In Progress Received Date: 02/25/2021

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Entered Date: 02/25/2021

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**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/2 "2021-03-24T01:40:44Z")

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There’s so many empty lots around Court Sq to build up. But Queens is pretty much destined to never have a supertall because of LGA, right?

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/3 "2021-03-24T01:42:17Z")

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Two 900 footers got chopped after FAA reviews (Skyline Tower and Sven, formerly Queens Plaza Park) so that is safe to assume.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/4 "2021-03-24T14:57:08Z")

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Where is this going? In place of the Court Square municipal parking structure?

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/5 "2021-03-24T15:05:20Z")

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I believe so.

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**Author:** ![bmosborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/bmosborne/32/78906_2.png) [@bmosborne](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bmosborne)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/6 "2021-03-28T15:52:14Z")

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What about along the waterfront?

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/7 "2021-04-14T17:14:21Z")

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it might actually be somewhere else.

In this article about Helen Uffner’s costume warehouse (a fascinating piece in itself, regardless of the real-estate angle), it is mentioned that Ms. Uffner has to vacate her premises by September 2021 “so a developer can build LIC’s tallest residential high-rise.”

> **[The NYC vintage collection that Hollywood turns to for their period pieces](https://nypost.com/2021/04/12/helen-uffners-private-vintage-collection-outfits-hollywood/)**
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> Helen Uffner has outfitted Winona Ryder, Tom Hanks and more, and she provided more than 150 dresses for “Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom.”

And her website lists her address as 42-24 Orchard Street.

[http://uffnervintage.com/](http://uffnervintage.com/)

So I think this project is actually on the southeast side of Jackson Avenue, between Queens and Orchard streets. The northern part of this block is a parking lot, and the warehouses take up the southern two-thirds of the block So it will be interesting to see if the warehouse buildings will be incorporated into this project, .

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**Author:** ![crawdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/2acd7d/32.png) [@crawdad](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/crawdad)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/8 "2021-04-14T19:50:50Z")

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Or it could be two separate, unrelated sites. There are a number of sites along Jackson Ave. that could, in theory, be a new tallest for Queens.

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/9 "2021-04-14T20:23:02Z")

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yes, but 2478 Jackson Avenue, this address, is associated with a private parking lot operator and not the municipal parking garage:

[https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.s\_p\_i\_operating\_corporation.2ca587be293a8d11dd1654272b0d9a13.html](https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.s_p_i_operating_corporation.2ca587be293a8d11dd1654272b0d9a13.html)

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**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/11 "2021-06-02T14:26:36Z")

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This isn’t the place for this.

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**Author:** ![AHC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@AHC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AHC)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/12 "2021-06-19T01:26:13Z")

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> **[BLDG Files Plans for 800K Square Foot Building in Long Island City](https://therealdeal.com/2021/06/18/bldg-plans-800k-sq-ft-tower-in-long-island-city/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=feature_posts)**
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> BLDG has filed a permit application to construct a 800,000-square-foot, 818-unit mixed-use building in Long Island City.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/13 "2021-06-19T01:38:59Z")

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6.17.21  
I think this is the right site for this project?

 ![PXL_20210617_195301053](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/2/b2314b1c85ff13978d38beacb241f8f231a7827e.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/14 "2021-06-19T01:43:37Z")

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Yes, it is.

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**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/15 "2021-08-29T19:53:27Z")

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/16 "2022-01-16T15:42:05Z")

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/17 "2022-01-16T15:59:42Z")

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Hmm interesting. If this is the new tallest for Queens, do you think Queens will ever get a supertall? I assumed that the FAA wouldn’t allow it due to the close proximity to LaGuardia but this is already 811 feet and that isn’t that far off.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/18 "2022-03-06T21:14:29Z")

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> **[Excavation Set to Begin for Queens' Tallest Building at 27-48 Jackson Avenue...](https://newyorkyimby.com/2022/03/excavation-set-to-begin-for-queens-tallest-building-at-27-48-jackson-avenue-in-long-island-city.html)**
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> Excavation is set to begin at 27-48 Jackson Avenue, site of a potential 811-foot-tall skyscraper in Long Island City, Queens.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/19 "2022-03-07T21:20:14Z")

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Per NYguy:  
[https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-l…t-queens-plans](https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/new-long-island-city-skyscraper-will-be-tallest-queens-plans)

**New Long Island City Skyscraper Will Be Tallest In Queens: Plans  
A nearly 800-foot residential skyscraper will soon rise near Queens Plaza, city records show — eclipsing a nearby tower as Queens’s tallest.**

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By Nick Garber, Patch Staff  
Mar 7, 2022

Quote:

For the third time in a handful of years, a new Long Island City skyscraper will gain the status of tallest building in Queens: in this case, a 794-foot tower set to rise near Queens Plaza, according to city records.

The new skyscraper will be mostly residential, containing 818 apartments at an average size of about 776 square feet. A portion will be set aside as affordable, through the city’s mandatory inclusionary housing program.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/20 "2022-03-07T23:00:19Z")

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Cool but yuck

Edit: I guess it’s just the massing

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-the-orchard-27-48-jackson-ave-823-ft-68-floors-queens-tallest/18999/21 "2022-03-07T23:32:23Z")

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We’ll have to wait for official renderings, but needless to say even in the best case Queens won’t be competing with Brooklyn for a while.

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