# NEW YORK | Second Avenue Subway **URL:** \ **Category:** Parks & Infrastructure\ **Created:** [July 27, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554 "2014-07-27T21:06:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/245 "2025-06-06T22:49:00Z")
What a bizarre choice for 116th and not at all future-proofing the station. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/246 "2025-06-06T22:52:28Z")
No clue but I find it bizarre, especially for such a shallow station. This type of configuration is only found at rather deep stations such as Clark Street, 168th Street, 181st Street or 191st Street. All of those stations are extremely deep and it makes sense that they are accessed by elevator. I can only assume this option was chosen to prevent disruption to the utilities above the tunnel and because it is cheaper. They seem to be decking over the middle track section of the tunnel and making it an island platform. ---
**Author:** ![baronson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/baronson/32/190290_2.png) [@baronson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/baronson)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/247 "2025-06-06T22:55:28Z")
I just skipped forward a little in the video and they mention there are stairs in each entrance but for emergency use only. This is mentioned at 30:47. I’m still not understanding this choice. The stairs maybe egress into a building that they can’t have passengers regularly pass through unless it’s an emergency? We go from large af mezzanines to little rat holes is there no in-between these extremes? ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/248 "2025-06-06T22:56:22Z")
It’s probably a spiral staircase that is compact but useable in emergencies. All of the stations I listed have emergency exit stairs as well. The closest example of this configuration is Clark Street which has it’s entrance _inside_ a building as well. It’s likely a similar situation where the stairs lead to a side door on the building. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/249 "2025-06-07T13:42:13Z")
I don’t see how this will fly. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/250 "2025-06-29T20:09:14Z")
> **[MTA Looks to Seize East Harlem Properties for Second Avenue Subway](https://commercialobserver.com/2025/06/mta-east-harlem-second-avenue-subway/)** > > The Metropolitan Transportation Authority has moved to seize and demolish properties in East Harlem for the Second Avenue Subway project. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/251 "2025-07-15T18:29:16Z")
> **[As MTA moves ahead with 2nd Avenue subway extension, East Harlem locals brace...](https://gothamist.com/news/as-mta-moves-ahead-with-2nd-avenue-subway-extension-east-harlem-locals-brace-for-change)** > > The project is slated to bring much more than a new train line to the long-neglected neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/252 "2025-07-31T14:37:56Z")
> **[East Harlem families facing eviction by MTA to make way for Second Ave subway](https://gothamist.com/news/east-harlem-families-facing-eviction-by-mta-to-make-way-for-second-ave-subway)** > > The MTA has promised to bring a new subway to East Harlem for decades. Now, some residents are being forced out of their homes to make way for the long-delayed project. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/253 "2025-08-17T19:33:02Z")
> **[MTA to approve $1.97 billion tunneling contract to push Second Avenue subway...](https://www.amny.com/nyc-transit/mta-second-avenue-subway-east-harlem/)** > > The Metropolitan Transportation Authority is set to approve a $1.97 billion contract to bore tunnels and start construction on two new Harlem subway stations, ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/254 "2025-08-22T13:28:27Z")
A store owner is complaining about being eminent domain’d for the SAS phase 2. Commenters surprisingly dont seem to fully side with the complainer. > **[$7.7B Second Avenue subway expansion will put NYC store out of business after...](https://nypost.com/2025/08/20/us-news/7-7b-second-avenue-subway-expansion-will-put-nyc-store-out-of-business-after-30-years-owner-claims/)** > > A construction supply firm will be forced to shutter after more than three decades as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority moves to seize its property to make way for the long-awaited Second A… ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/255 "2025-08-22T13:51:45Z")
We break the eggs for the omlette. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/256 "2025-09-23T03:47:09Z")
> **[MTA Moves to Seize More Property for New Subway Tunnels in East Harlem](https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/09/19/second-avenue-subway-east-harlem-tunnels-eminent-domain/)** > > The agency aims to use eminent domain to ensure it can proceed with the $7 billion extension of the Second Avenue Subway. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/257 "2025-10-01T15:07:54Z")
> **[Trump administration puts on hold $18 billion in funding for New York City...](https://www.ajc.com/news/2025/10/trump-administration-puts-on-hold-18-billion-in-funding-for-new-york-city-infrastructure-projects/)** > > The Trump administration is putting a hold on roughly $18 billion to fund a new rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River between New York and New Jersey, as well as the city’s expanded Second Avenue subway project because of the government shutdown ---
**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/258 "2025-10-01T20:42:31Z")
Isn’t that like a blatant lie? The Hudson tunnel project’s funding was secured ages ago, and I recall Gateway remarking that it was too late for the federal gvt to revoke it. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/259 "2025-10-01T21:10:23Z")
The Orange Idiot does whatever he wants. The law does not apply to him. He’ll probably hold whatever hasn’t been disbursed yet hostage until his petty demands are met. He can’t _kill_ the project but he’ll do whatever it takes to sabotage or stall it until his demands are met. ---
**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/260 "2025-10-01T22:02:26Z")
As long as they make it to 2028, they should be ok… ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/261 "2025-10-02T12:54:16Z")
2028 won’t save us. > **[Trump hinted at plans to cancel 2028 election while talking to generals: Dem](https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-2674144093-2674144093)** > > President Donald Trump's speech to hundreds of the US' top generals on Tuesday hinted at plans to cancel the 2028 election, according to Democratic Rep. Dan Goldman of New York. In an appearance on The Jim Acosta Show on Tuesday, Goldman said the... The military is trained to follow orders (this is true of any modern military force and is not unique to the United States). The purpose of boot camp is to turn young people into mindless drones. There are all sorts of systems set up (court martial, dishonorable discharge, etc.) to ensure strict obedience. We are entering a dark time in our nation’s history. The Second Avenue Subway extension will only be used by folks who haven’t yet been born. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/262 "2025-10-02T13:47:43Z")
If he doesn’t keel over. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/263 "2025-10-03T00:17:21Z")
> **[City Leaders Rip Trump DOT for Pausing Billions for Second Avenue Subway](https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/10/02/second-avenue-subway-trump-cuts-funding/)** > > “This is retaliation, plain and simple,” said one representative of East Harlem. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554/264 "2025-12-03T19:12:44Z")
> **[Scrap DEI to restore Second Ave. subway, Hudson Tunnel projects’ funding: feds](https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/12/02/feds-tell-mta-gateway-get-into-compliance-funding-restoration/)** > > The funding for the two key transit projects — to extend the Second Avenue Subway into East Harlem and construct a new train tunnel under the Hudson River — was frozen by the Trump administration i… [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-second-avenue-subway/554.md?page=14)