# NEW YORK | New York Casino License

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809>\
**Category:** General Development\
**Created:** [November 28, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809 "2021-11-28T21:26:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/46 "2022-10-20T22:50:49Z")

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1515 Broadway

> **[A Casino In Times Square? Broadway Divided On Development Gamble](https://deadline.com/2022/10/times-square-casino-broadway-league-actors-equity-caesars-palace-1235150547/)**
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> Times Square, the heart of New York City’s Broadway district, could possibly – possibly being the operative word – gain a glitzy new attraction in the years ahead: The owners of C…

> **[Caesars, SL Green roll the dice on Times Square casino](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/20/new-york-times-square-casino-caesars-sl-green-00062694)**
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> Competition is heating up for limited licenses to run full gambling halls in New York City.

> **[SL Green Focused on Debt, Hedging Against Interest Rates](https://therealdeal.com/2022/10/20/sl-green-hedges-its-bets-and-thats-no-casino-pun/)**
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> SL Green beat estimates in its Q3 earnings, but hedging against interest rates and reducing debt are its priority, CEO Marc Holliday said.

I wouldn’t mind if the old 1515 Broadway was demolished….

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/47 "2022-10-20T23:00:26Z")

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SL Green wouldnt necessarily demolish it, the article mentioned it as being above where the Lion King play theater is in the podium. Regardless, some of the office floors would be transformed into hotel rooms per the article.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/48 "2022-10-21T00:48:01Z")

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[https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-50-hudson-yards-504-522-w-34th-1-011-ft-58-floors/200/1001?u=tkdv](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-50-hudson-yards-504-522-w-34th-1-011-ft-58-floors/200/1001)

What even is this comment…

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**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 6:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/51 "2022-10-21T18:24:55Z")

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However they want to redevelop it, this is a far superior location than the Hudson Yards. Times Square is already a chaotic, noisy tourist mecca, so a casino will fit like a glove. Just please for the love of all that is holy, don’t let them clad the building in faux-Roman architecture. The LV Caesars Palace is one of the cheesiest buildings in the country — even the extremely cheesy Times Square deserves better.

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**Author:** ![Mackensen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mackensen/32/138218_2.png) [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/52 "2022-10-21T23:23:46Z")

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Wouldn’t a casino in Times Square be too much for the area?

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/1/11196ee05459a6153ad2d292f2f20619fb2e1ac1.jpeg)  
Yes, that to me would be a nice NY casino proposal with a skyscraper or two on the HY Phase Two site .

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/55 "2022-10-27T14:36:16Z")

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> **[Hochul Doubles Down On Downstate Casino Plans Amid Times Square Opposition](https://www.usbets.com/hochul-doubles-down-downstate-casino-plans/)**
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> Despite some opposition from NYC political leaders, Hochul will not suspend downstate casino bidding process.

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/56 "2022-11-14T10:26:17Z")

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> **[Times Square casino faces long odds as powerful Broadway group rips plan](https://nypost.com/2022/11/13/times-square-casino-faces-long-odds-as-powerful-broadway-group-rips-plan/)**
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> The Shubert Organization is standing by Broadway theater owners’ opposition to SL Green’s and Caesars Entertainment’s controversial proposal to bring a casino to Times Square.

**SL Green is keeping the lid on the specifics of its proposal until the end of the year — such as how the casino would be fitted inside, and how many floors it would have, at 1515 Broadway,** a 54-story tower that’s home to Paramount Global’s headquarters and to the Minskoff Theater where “The Lion King” is playing.

No one at publicly traded SL Green would comment.

But **a source said the company was considering a “boutique, high-end gaming facility” that would include a five-star hotel, retail, food stations, special signage and “experiential technology” to broadcast into Times Square.**

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**Author:** ![007](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/007/32/119215_2.png) [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/57 "2022-11-21T20:31:11Z")

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[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-21/billionaire-9-west-owner-eyes-nyc-casino-bid-in-reshaped-empire](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-21/billionaire-9-west-owner-eyes-nyc-casino-bid-in-reshaped-empire)

Rendering of the Freedom Plaza project  
Source: The Soloviev Group

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/5/45abfa0af067ef2869241220bcf2e21c183b487f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/58 "2022-11-21T20:32:31Z")

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That would be an interesting idea. Though I’d prefer if it were a lot bigger

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/59 "2022-11-21T23:20:22Z")

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hoping the crazy guy wins this. That lot is a prime choice for something like this.

> **[Soloviev Enters Casino Sweepstakes](https://therealdeal.com/2022/11/21/soloviev-bets-long-dormant-midtown-east-site-in-casino-sweepstakes/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=feature_posts)**
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> The Soloviev Group is entertaining a casino complex south of the United Nations, including a 1,000-key hotel, a park and a museum.

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**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/60 "2022-11-21T23:27:16Z")

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Wow, that thing looks… dare I say, pretty classy?

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/61 "2022-11-21T23:33:12Z")

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It’s interesting that he’s planning this while dismantling other parts of his portfolio

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/62 "2022-11-22T00:39:11Z")

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So does anyone know when the timeline will be when other proposals will come out and when they will pick the winners?

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/63 "2022-11-22T00:53:16Z")

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I believe anything relating to who gets gaming permits is supposed to be decided/released in the Spring.

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**Author:** ![Jaydayvis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6de8d8/32.png) [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/64 "2022-11-22T01:46:26Z")

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First, they should double the height of that building. Perhaps it’s not an official rendering, but why in the world should a 20-story mid-rise development be built on the waterfront in Midtown? Second, they should plop an apartment building in the mix.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/65 "2022-11-22T01:52:13Z")

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That’s the empty lot south of the United Nations.

I could see this becoming a luxury casino for the wealthy like Marina Bay Sands and the Monte Carlo

![HOLE-articleLarge](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/4/1/413f4d2cec89df138d16bee754a42898fae9fbb0.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/66 "2022-11-22T03:55:47Z")

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Why hasn’t this plot of land been developed on already?

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/67 "2022-11-22T03:56:56Z")

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I believe it has been tried but those attempts fell apart. Don’t know the whole story though

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**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/68 "2022-11-22T04:16:29Z")

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I don’t think it helps that the area is nowhere near a subway stop.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-new-york-casino-license/20809/69 "2022-11-22T04:30:08Z")

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I’d much rather see Solow’s original Turtle Bay South development come to fruition than this proposal, it seems like a waste of space considering that the Ferris wheel is taking up a majority % of the entire lot and there’s nothing there but the 2 story casino (most likely) underneath it. It’s location next to FDR is also unpleasant even though it appears the upper deck is covering it and the off ramp.

As for why nothing’s happened to the site in general, I think things just never picked up after the one tower of the complex was built (685 1st Ave).

Of all the casino proposals, I’m most looking forward to Wynn/Related proposals and hope it is one of the 3 that gets the license. Caesar’s/SLGreen’s Times Square proposal is also interesting, but I don’t like this Solow proposal.

Also lmao, that render is all sorts strange, 35 Hudson Yards makes an appearance in front of a 90° turned MetLife Building and there are two 3 WTC’s making an appearance as well.

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