# NEW YORK | Madison House (15 E 30th St) | 805 FT | 66 FLOORS **URL:** \ **Category:** Completed\ **Created:** [April 30, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522 "2015-04-30T14:29:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/1 "2015-04-30T14:29:26Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/3/f396ef7e012d3a1131bdbefc2275ff5144b7b9bc.jpeg) **[China’s Fosun to Develop Luxury Property in New York](http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-fosun-to-develop-luxury-property-in-new-york-1430356103)** > Chinese conglomerate Fosun Group said Thursday it is planning to develop a luxury condominium in Manhattan, its second real estate foray in New York City as it ramps up its overseas expansion plans and diversifies its global real estate holdings. > The Shanghai-based firm said in an emailed statement its unit Fosun Property will co-develop a 47-story residential tower at 126 Madison Avenue with JD Carlisle LLC. Fosun didn’t provide financial details of the investment in New York. > Fosun said the residential tower, currently in the design and planning stage, will attract local and international buyers. “Fosun is confident that this property will be viewed internationally as another iconic New York City tower,” said Alex Gong, executive president of Fosun Property. > In 2013, Fosun Group bought One Chase Manhattan Plaza in downtown Manhattan for $725 million from J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., and renamed the 60-story tower 28 Liberty. > Apart from New York, Fosun Property has been acquiring real-estate assets and property-management platforms abroad in recent years, including asset management firm IDERA in Japan, and office buildings in London, Sydney, Tokyo and Lisbon. Its latest office tower acquisition was 73 Miller Street in Sydney. ---
**Author:** ![JC\_Heights](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jc_heights/32/90668_2.png) [@JC\_Heights](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JC_Heights)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/3 "2018-12-10T01:42:34Z")
Should probably combine with 15e 30th? ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/4 "2014-09-11T18:42:44Z")
## [825-Foot, 53-Story Residential Tower Coming to 15 East 30th Street](http://www.newyorkyimby.com/2014/09/825-foot-53-story-residential-tower-coming-to-15-east-30th-street.html) BY: STEPHEN SMITH ON SEPTEMBER 11TH 2014 AT 11:40 AM > According to a permit application filed this morning, J.D. Carlisle intends to build a 53-story, 825-foot residential tower at 15 East 30th Street. Its height would make it the tallest building between Chambers Street and the Empire State Building, positioning it somewhere between the old RCA Building and CitySpire Center in the ranking of New York City’s tallest towers. > Handel Architects filed for the permit, but whether they’re the design architect or just the architect of record, we do not know – nobody from J.D. Carlisle was available for comment when we called. > The tower will hold nearly 370,000 square feet of space. Of that, 310,000 square feet will count towards the developer’s residential allotment, with a small 4,090-square foot commercial space. The permit indicates 188 apartments, for an average unit size of around 1,650 square feet. > The site is a through-block, T-shaped piece of land with frontages on 30th and 31st Streets and Madison Avenue, but not the corners. In the past, the location would not have been prime enough for condos, but the increasing popularity of NoMad and the willingness of buyers to venture outside of the traditional luxury locales – to say nothing of the project’s 15-foot floor-to-floor height, about the same as 432 Park – means that high-end condos are now likely. J.D. Carlisle leader Evan Stein told the New York Times in 2011 that they prefer rentals, but also have some condo projects in the works. ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/5 "2014-09-11T18:54:00Z")
The 250m club just keeps rolling in new members. ---
**Author:** ![YIMBY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimby/32/12_2.png) [@YIMBY](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMBY)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 4:12am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/6 "2014-09-12T04:12:02Z")
Yes! I would bet that this will be amazing. The location is also improving fairly quickly. ---
**Author:** ![skyhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@skyhouse](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/skyhouse)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/7 "2014-11-19T15:23:17Z")
according to this [http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=9&passjobnumber=122128679&passdocnumber=01](http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JobsQueryByNumberServlet?requestid=9&passjobnumber=122128679&passdocnumber=01) the plans were disapproved on nov 14. does anyone know what happens next, or why they were disapproved, or how to find out? ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 6:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/8 "2014-11-20T06:44:06Z")
It’s rare for new buildings to get DoB-approved the first time around. There could be simply a problem with the information filed, missing information/incomplete forms, etc. The filing will be amended and eventually approved once the DoB sees everything they are looking for. There could of course be a zoning problem, but I wouldn’t worry too much about that at this point. If by chance they want to build larger than given development rights, or against intended building usage, the city commission will need to approve it. ---
**Author:** ![skyhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@skyhouse](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/skyhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/9 "2015-02-27T22:39:58Z")
Thanks for your reply. Can you suggest how i can determine whether there is a zoning problem, and what the likelyhood of it being resolved? ---
**Author:** ![MrVenaCava](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mrvenacava/32/1526_2.png) [@MrVenaCava](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MrVenaCava)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 4:34am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/10 "2015-02-28T04:34:29Z")
You can generally look up the FAR allowed for a particular block or parcel, and then compare FAR to the square-footage/density being applied to zoning in the application. Also, take note of the project’s usage (ex. residential, industrial, commercial, mix of uses, etc.), and what type of use the block/parcel is zoned for. Those are very basic zoning rules, and I can’t comment on anything more technical, unfortunately. If the project doesn’t fit those above rules, it needs to receive a special permit or variance (approved by the city). That process can take months to years. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/11 "2015-03-09T03:09:35Z")
I think that 15 E 30th will be the rear of the tower. The developer owns the building on 31st and Madison and the one just to the west on E 31st St. 31st St is much nicer than 30th, and I’m sure that JDS wants a Madison Ave address. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/12 "2015-09-19T20:31:56Z")
The buildings on 30th and 31st are ready to come down. I suspect that the entrance will be on 31st since it’s a much nicer street than 30th. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/f/fafd424a810236fd18a9cf0d4719638b5442446a.jpg) Uploading image.jpg… ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 10:07am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/13 "2015-10-15T10:07:16Z")
Workers were on the scaffolding yesterday ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/4/4c4b838802ff662728d79193efc48e51546fc69f.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/14 "2015-11-13T03:25:43Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/4/4a0915859c0197267b980b39aacf73e7d2685d19.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/15 "2015-11-17T03:26:07Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/9/9abe34113dab9eb1019a2523de5a555d56ccb7ac.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/6/67f2b94eac46548be17393220cf3172dbd3b72d3.jpg) The developer owns 123 and 132 Madison. I wonder what else, if anything, it will try to acquire, ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/7/7b91bb6d44a083ad1b4b823d977964dc13481be0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 3:20am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/16 "2015-11-21T03:20:17Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/d/dcde2e08f98b9c6f1bbb2ae385bd20d841b878dd.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/17 "2015-12-05T02:55:34Z")
It’s really Coming Down! Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/7/742d824f61e77ce4afecfe0efc35fb9cd9266d28.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/e/ef888002dda4ac608c8e27bc5cace77ac78a0b03.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/18 "2015-12-08T01:58:27Z")
Today ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/5/513d6021c819a5124cc334cb7d3c10e238d919dc.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/19 "2015-12-14T15:07:23Z")
The “detention” of Fosun’s CEO by the Chinese authorities should not impede this project. If anything, this will hasten capital flight from China! ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 6:24am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-madison-house-15-e-30th-st-805-ft-66-floors/1522/20 "2015-12-22T06:24:30Z")
Almost gone! Dec 21, 2015 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/9/97b3dd15b7606113055d9afb57958e446d43f1cd.jpg) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/2X/3/322355b967ab51dc73cd307d6fa7986f2224abd1.jpg) ---
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