# NEW YORK | Liberty Park (WTC)

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310>\
**Category:** Parks & Infrastructure\
**Created:** [June 16, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310 "2014-06-16T00:10:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/484 "2023-01-21T02:35:27Z")

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Glowing in the golden hour.  
[WTC Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/wtc/)

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**Author:** ![Sea\_roomba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/sea_roomba/32/177688_2.png) [@Sea\_roomba](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Sea_roomba)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/485 "2023-02-18T01:42:57Z")

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![FCD29A21-A759-4348-879B-6D05DFEF4205_1_201_a](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/e/8e788ea57e6f9c0d55c5786b80e80f1a64080d57.jpeg)  
photo taken tonight by me

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/486 "2023-03-04T18:17:09Z")

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![IMG_0977](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/e/9e84e6dbcada882ace1c35aa877cd61ddfba88d2.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_0979](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/8/d879bbafeeaa1c386d1bed738c2593ce894511ea.jpeg)  
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**Author:** ![AntonioL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/antoniol/32/139225_2.png) [@AntonioL](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/AntonioL)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2023, 12:20am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/487 "2023-03-05T00:20:02Z")

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Stunning.

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**Author:** ![TKDV](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tkdv/32/83069_2.png) [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/488 "2023-04-15T18:27:30Z")

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It’s safe to say that yesterday marked the final completion of Liberty Park and the Church when a stela in the small secluded park space south of the church listing all the major donors and funders was commemorated. That portion is now opened.

 ![Saint-Nicholas-National-Shrine-Cam_1681582987154](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/9/6929f654cb399a550747d9d8dfc3e930d576f6ea.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/489 "2023-08-05T19:13:19Z")

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![IMG_5557](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/c/c/ccedfac97b2b4dcfa7ffac2154e2e3e9e14825ab.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/490 "2024-01-25T01:48:37Z")

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Anyone been by the complex recently? I noticed they removed most of the “living wall” from Liberty Park. Anyone know why by any chance?

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**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/491 "2024-01-25T16:37:12Z")

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I’m no expert, but I’ve heard living wall installations are traditionally difficult to maintain. Plants die easier and replacing them is more difficult than if they’re just planted in the ground. Most of these installations are abandoned after a few years of cost overruns and the aesthetics just never quite meeting expectations.

Again, I’m not an expert or connected to this project in any way so idk, but that’s my guess.

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/492 "2024-01-25T17:09:51Z")

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Ahhhh. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info! Sad to see it go if that’s the case but understandable.

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**Author:** ![exodius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/exodius/32/71326_2.png) [@exodius](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/exodius)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/493 "2024-01-25T17:59:47Z")

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I didn’t explore the entire area for long, but here’s a few pics from earlier this month:

 ![LibertyPark-1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/e/5e12fe2cc228c6ba6f7d85e903570ba56e2e8722.jpeg)  
 ![LibertyPark-2](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/3/a/3a5333dd4c72eb8a764b4cbfa7fcb08475660ad3.jpeg)  
 ![LibertyPark-3](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/5/5/55732321b372b839ecfb970413d0e1093ce3acbb.jpeg)  
 ![LibertyPark-4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/a/0/a0a5411031059376bea1bf3501c92705f05ff3e4.jpeg)  
 ![LibertyPark-5](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/0/607e3472b640e107e7a61a9205cf59a1dab3bfe0.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/494 "2024-01-29T19:48:00Z")

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![IMG_0438](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/0/a/0a14113ec4c2e414b30f340f5fc6da071682167d.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_0440](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e5c5767375c6824ed94e87b6f64ef66c269d837e.jpeg)  
From this morning. Looks like they are fixing more than just the plants.

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/495 "2024-01-29T20:03:45Z")

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Thanks for these! I wonder if they will just attach stone / granite to the facade to match the rest of the structure. Sadly I don’t think the living wall is coming back.

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/496 "2024-01-29T20:09:57Z")

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Granite will be nice. My problem with the garage is the two massive entrances facing the memorial. Unfortunately, you can easily see the interior of the ramps, which are ugly and clash with the rest of the complex.

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**Author:** ![bpc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@bpc](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/bpc)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/497 "2024-01-29T20:31:38Z")

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They must have had to tear out the living wall due to some sort of moisture penetration which could have eroded the concrete. Now they are applying more layers of weatherproofing. Re: @StrongIsland ‘s comment, I think there’s a chance they keep some green elements but more tame, or otherwise yes just a simple stone wall. Either way it’s kind of a shame.

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/498 "2024-02-15T03:28:24Z")

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Well I’m happy to share that the living wall…will live! It’s getting an upgraded system according to this article:

“_ **Shortly after the start of this year, contractors began removing the panels, leading to fears that the Living Wall had been sentenced to death. Perish the thought. “Rest assured: the living wall isn’t going anywhere,” say Steve Burns, a spokesman for the Port Authority, which controls the World Trade Center site. “It’s getting an upgrade. The plants will thrive with a new, innovative soilless system, ensuring this unique green space remains a vibrant part of the World Trade Center.** _”

> **[The Hanging Gardens of Lower Manhattan](https://myemail.constantcontact.com/The-Hanging-Gardens-of-Lower-Manhattan.html?soid=1101992539878&aid=eHRr7ID64i8)**
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> The Broadsheet - Lower Manhattan’s Local Newspaper View as Webpage The Hanging Gardens of Lower Manhattan A New Lease on Life for the Living Wall at the World Trade Center The Living Wall, on the nort

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 5:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/499 "2024-05-05T17:49:50Z")

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@\_wtcofficial on Instagram

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**Author:** ![Alemel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alemel/32/91966_2.png) [@Alemel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Alemel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/500 "2024-05-23T03:57:32Z")

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> **[New Life at WTC’s Vertical Garden](https://www.panynj.gov/port-authority/en/blogs/projects/new-life-at-wtc-s-vertical-garden.html)**
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> The seeds have been planted, literally, for a rejuvenated living wall at the World Trade Center’s Liberty Park. This Earth Month marks a rebirth for the wall with an innovative system that looks to keep the vertically hung plants happy and healthy,...

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/1/e/1e4b16fbba732e120ed6ba131a22cf4f893e006b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/501 "2025-09-09T02:38:26Z")

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Is the 9/11 memorial considered a hotbed of crime, like Washington DC’s Union Station?

> **[Trump looking to take over September 11 Memorial and Museum, report says](https://abc7ny.com/post/trump-looking-take-september-11-memorial-museum-report-says/17750902/)**
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> The report says that the Trump Administration is looking at taking over the museum in Lower Manhattan, though it is not clear exactly how or why they would do so.

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**Author:** ![IhateUSsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ihateussteel/32/24981_2.png) [@IhateUSsteel](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/IhateUSsteel)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/502 "2025-09-09T03:37:26Z")

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Well I guess it’s about to be.

Probably better suited for the WTC district thread though

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**Author:** ![treebeard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/treebeard/32/173534_2.png) [@treebeard](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/treebeard)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-liberty-park-wtc/310/503 "2025-09-11T01:17:07Z")

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He probably want to put a 9/11 “truther” in charge

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