# NEW YORK | JFK Airport Renovation/Upgrades

**URL:** <https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298>\
**Category:** Parks & Infrastructure\
**Created:** [December 3, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298 "2014-12-03T23:03:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/203 "2023-03-24T17:12:24Z")

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I’m excited about both the T1 and T6 projects since they seem to be the most thought-out of the redevelopment and are equally both exciting, especially after seeing the disappointments that are T4 and T8’s expansions. I’m a jetBlue flyer so if I go long-distance, I’ll be using T5/6 anyways. I also linked the full set of new renderings as well.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/204 "2023-03-24T19:12:29Z")

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> **[FAA asks airlines to reduce JFK, LGA, EWR, and DCA flights - AeroTime](https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/faa-pleads-with-airlines-to-reduce-operations-at-jfk-lga-ewr-and-dca-airports)**
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> The FAA is pleading with airlines to reduce their operations at JFK, LGA, and DCA during the upcoming summer season, citing staffing issues.

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**Author:** ![YIMHudson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/yimhudson/32/2304_2.png) [@YIMHudson](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/YIMHudson)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/205 "2023-04-03T20:42:25Z")

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Bad week for NYC…

> <https://twitter.com/AP/status/1642984136515239942?t=PrkqElYF3U11FxU7P_NHsg&s=19>

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/206 "2023-04-08T20:32:37Z")

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Ouch.

> **[Construction worker trapped in trench at JFK Airport](https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/video/construction-worker-trapped-in-trench-at-jfk-airport/)**
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> Chopper 2 is over the generating plant at the airport, where flights are not impacted.

> **[Two workers die after becoming trapped in trench at New York City’s JFK airport](https://www.foxnews.com/us/two-workers-die-trapped-trench-at-new-york-citys-jfk-airport)**
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> Two workers died Monday after becoming trapped in a trench at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, the FDNY confirms.

> **[Two workers have been killed while working in a trench at JFK - Global...](https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/two-workers-have-been-killed-while-working-in-a-trench-at-jfk/)**
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> Two construction workers have died after becoming trapped under rubble at JFK International Airport in New York.

> **[Workers Killed In JFK Construction Accident ID'd](https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/fortlee/news/workers-killed-in-jfk-construction-accident-idd/860746/)**
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> Two workers were killed after becoming trapped under rubble at JFK International Airport this week have been identified.Franciso Reyes and Fernando Pereira were relocating utility lines at an energy plant near the airport for its redevelop…

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**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/207 "2023-04-25T20:19:54Z")

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Major traffic disruptions coming to JFK next month [Major, yearslong disruptions are coming to JFK - The Points Guy](https://thepointsguy.com/news/new-york-jfk-airport-major-disruptions-traffic/)

Roadways for T1 and T5 are being reconfigured to accommodate construction–this layout will last for the next 5 or so years apparently. In addition, T1 Airtrain station closes in May for around 8 months.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/208 "2023-04-28T05:43:02Z")

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The roads at JFK are already terrible and are going to get worse during construction.

> **[Flying through JFK? New changes coming amid $19B project to improve airport](https://abc7ny.com/jfk-airport-construction-traffic-airtrain/13186506/)**
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> The $19 billion project to expand and improve one of the country's busiest airports is getting underway -- but passengers should know a few things before they travel.

> **[Construction May Make Getting to JFK Airport a Nightmare for 3 Years: What to...](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/construction-may-make-getting-to-jfk-airport-a-nightmare-for-next-3-years-what-to-know/4275190/)**
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> Port Authority officials are warning travelers to be prepared for gridlock near JFK Airport, as a $19 billion renovation project picks up steam — promising a transformation decades in the making at the tri-state’s busiest international airport.

> **[Almost $19B transformation project at JFK Airport takes flight, may impact...](https://bronx.news12.com/almost-19b-transformation-project-at-jfk-airport-takes-flight-may-impact-travel)**
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> Port Authority Executive Director Rick Cotton promises that JFK will be a world-class airport after improvements are made to outdated terminals that were built more than 50 years ago.

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**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2023, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/209 "2023-04-29T18:37:43Z")

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Updated render

 ![JFK Redevelopment Updated Render](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/d/3/d3c4bb0f4b85bdccdd91df2871a7b24455e3e9d2.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rbrosenk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de053/32.png) [@rbrosenk](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrosenk)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 3:45pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/210 "2023-05-01T15:45:27Z")

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that many gates on one concourse (terminal 4) is ridiculous. it’s going to take longer to check in and walk to the last gate then to transfer from Terminal 1 to 8.

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**Author:** ![rbrome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/rbrome/32/5724_2.png) [@rbrome](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/rbrome)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/211 "2023-05-01T17:02:59Z")

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“Going to”? That part is already there. And yes, it absolutely is ridiculous. It’s over half a mile. I’ve had flights that were out at the end… ugh.

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**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/212 "2023-05-01T18:12:46Z")

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Yea concourse B is ridiculously long. From time to time I’ve seen them use golf cart like vehicles to transport elderly/disabled people to and from the gates.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/213 "2023-05-01T19:35:06Z")

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Terminal 4 needs something like what [Detroit Airport has](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressTram) - a train that runs from one end of that long concourse to another. Going to the gates at the extreme end of that terminal must be quite the walk.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/5/e531486eefaf4fe8ab3fd3faf787d7d24c5c1e0d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/214 "2023-05-02T16:21:15Z")

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This would be fantastic. Seems there’s now a bus service going from one end to the other–and maybe to the base of the concourses as well, but to me that feels lacking.

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**Author:** ![TK2000](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tk2000/32/114212_2.png) [@TK2000](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TK2000)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/215 "2023-05-02T17:24:27Z")

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Yup, same with Phoenix. Love the monorail there, its a genius design for all airports…other than the ridiculous crowds

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**Author:** ![StrongIsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@StrongIsland](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/StrongIsland)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/216 "2023-05-02T17:27:45Z")

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We need to learn to go big or go home again in this country, especially in NY. I’m sick of these half assed plans. Don’t get me wrong, the new LGA looks great but nothing now with the air train. LGA/JFK & Newark should ALL have brand new, state of the art monorail systems. How do we spend billions of dollars on new airports and not tackle one of the most critical components which is transportation around and to and from the airports?! It’s truly mind boggling.

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/217 "2023-05-03T01:30:24Z")

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Newark’s monorail is slated to be replaced, [its mentioned in the EWR renovation thread](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/newark-airport-renovations-and-updates/17248/76) but the actual speed of the replacement is going at a snails pace.

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**Author:** ![JRF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/jrf/32/136878_2.png) [@JRF](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/JRF)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/218 "2023-05-03T10:09:17Z")

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the newark air train is on hold indefinitely.

after procurement started, PANYNJ realized how much temporary train system they were paying for and decided to put the job on hold.

i expect we wont see a new airtrain until a final EWR master plan is released that considers the locations of the next two replacement terminals.

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**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/219 "2023-05-11T00:19:17Z")

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> **[Inside JFK's $19 Billion Of Improvement Projects](https://simpleflying.com/inside-jfks-19-billion-improvement-projects/)**
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> The redevelopment project will improve four of the airport's terminals.

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**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/220 "2023-05-20T21:23:54Z")

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Found this graphic showing a timeline for the main redevelopment projects. Note that it lists the T4 expansion as resuming in Q4 of 2024 for a period of two years.

 ![JFKR Timeline](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/7/8767a8b49f4a77286ce313c2969213946cb7e784.jpeg)

From here: [https://davelbostoncoach.com/blog/navigating-jfks-redevelopment-program-tips-for-travelers/](https://davelbostoncoach.com/blog/navigating-jfks-redevelopment-program-tips-for-travelers/)

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**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/221 "2023-05-21T01:28:42Z")

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I also noticed the outline of T4 where the expansion is located shows the area with the expansion depicting standard non-regional jet gates like the rest of the terminal. I am starting to wonder if the current “expansion” that is dissapointing is a temporary thing.

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**Author:** ![BA178](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/ba178/32/186334_2.png) [@BA178](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BA178)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-jfk-airport-renovation-upgrades/1298/222 "2023-05-21T03:37:18Z")

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Seems that might be the case. It would mean longer walks, however I imagine they’d extend the airside bus to the end of the pier to try and mitigate this.

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