# NEW YORK | Empire Station Complex | 8 Towers | 748-1300 FT
**URL:** https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701
**Category:** Proposed
**Created:** [February 20, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701 "2021-02-20T20:25:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/265 "2022-06-30T23:52:52Z")
There is some construction going on. I was there a few months ago and noticed a lot of construction scaffolding, etc. A lot of exposed beams and preliminary work. In March, they started to remove unnecessary beams that were keeping the ceilings low in the LIRR areas. Nothing yet with NJT.
> **[MTA removing 'dungeon-like' ceiling beams as part of Penn Station revamp](https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2022/03/08/mta-removing-ceiling-beams-as-part-of-penn-station-revamp)**
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> Workers are removing the beams from the LIRR concourse.
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### Author:  [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/267 "2022-07-13T13:27:34Z")
^ Yeah that apartment plan isn’t happening.
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/269 "2022-07-19T19:14:49Z")
> **[7 Penn Plz, New York, NY 10001 - 7 Penn Plaza | feil.org](https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/7-Penn-Plz-New-York-NY/11849747/?stid=feilorg)**
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> 7 Penn Plz, New York, NY 10001. This Retail space is available for lease. Built in 1921, the 357,000 square foot office building boast
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### Author:  [@TKDV](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/TKDV)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/270 "2022-07-19T20:04:11Z")
Just because there is news about a building in a development does not always mean it is related to the development, there’s no need to post articles or links that don’t mention or relate to anything about this development only for that the building in the link is inside the planned development boundary.
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/271 "2022-07-21T19:46:35Z")
> **[The Penn Station $7 Billion Fix-Up Moves Ahead: Here’s What to Know](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/nyregion/penn-station-redevelopment.html)**
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> The project promises to update the notorious eyesore but critics of the plan are concerned about the cost.
> **[State Board Unanimously Approves Penn Station General Plan](https://commercialobserver.com/2022/07/state-board-unanimously-approves-penn-station-general-plan/)**
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> The Empire State Development board voted Thursday morning to adopt the general project plan for Pennsylvania Station’s rehabilitation.
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/272 "2022-07-21T19:47:03Z")
> **[Empire State Development Approves Penn Station Project](https://therealdeal.com/2022/07/21/state-greenlights-massive-penn-station-development-plan/)**
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> New York state officials signed off on the Penn Station Area development project, which now heads to the Public Authorities Control Board.
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### Author:  [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/273 "2022-07-21T20:14:49Z")
Awesome! I imagine it’ll pass easily.
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### Author:  [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/274 "2022-07-21T20:29:15Z")
The NIMBY’s are s- themselves right now.
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### Author:  [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/275 "2022-07-21T22:21:14Z")
The NIMBY’s be like:
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### Author:  [@Mackensen](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Mackensen)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/276 "2022-07-23T15:33:48Z")
> **[Empire State Development approves Penn Station redevelopment](https://www.archpaper.com/2022/07/empire-state-development-approves-overhaul-penn-station-circumambient-neighborhood/)**
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> The Empire State Redevelopment has approved the plan to redevelop the area around Penn Station, in an on-going saga.
> **[Relocating Madison Square Garden?](https://www.westsidespirit.com/news/relocating-madison-square-garden-MF2142529)**
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> The Manhattan Borough President and key Manhattan legislators have coalesced around a call to relocate Madison Square Garden from atop Penn Station as...
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### Author:  [@F.Wright](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/F.Wright)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/277 "2022-07-23T15:56:44Z")
MOVE MSG!
\*There is hope
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 25, 2022, 9:08am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/278 "2022-07-25T09:08:01Z")
> **[State Board OKs Skyline-Changing Real Estate Plan for Blocks Around Penn Station](https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/7/21/23273435/state-board-approves-real-estate-plan-around-penn-station)**
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> A key vote paves the way for megadevelopment in Midtown. Gov. Hochul hopes it will lead to money for a Penn revamp but critics have their doubts.
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### Author:  [@Jaydayvis](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Jaydayvis)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/279 "2022-07-26T04:19:24Z")
Are the towers gonna ruin their marriages or careers or lives? Like what’s the issue with…….towers being built around a mainly commercial/office area……lmao? Like move to Omaha Nebraska or something lol
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### Author:  [@F.Wright](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/F.Wright)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/280 "2022-07-26T04:48:41Z")
I don’t understand why anyone would want to save anything surrounding Penn station in a 5 block radius. That place has been pimped to death by slumlords.
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### Author:  [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2022, 11:27am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/281 "2022-07-26T11:27:43Z")
Both Macy’s and the ESB are within a 5 block radius, are you saying those and countless other nice prewars shouldn’t be preserved?
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### Author:  [@007](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/007)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/282 "2022-07-28T00:43:38Z")
Please close or delete
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### Author:  [@Shane\_Keena](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Shane_Keena)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/283 "2022-07-28T01:17:03Z")
If they haven’t been properly maintained and their offerings don’t track with contemporary needs.
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### Author:  [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/284 "2022-07-28T01:19:22Z")
Are you suggesting the ESB shouldn’t be preserved?
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### Author:  [@Shane\_Keena](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Shane_Keena)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/285 "2022-07-28T02:17:10Z")
The ESB has been correctly managed and they have actually managed to keep their amenities fresh. The revamped lobby and 102nd floor observation deck? That’s serious business as far as I am concerned.
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### Author:  [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)
#### Post date: [July 28, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-empire-station-complex-8-towers-748-1300-ft/18701/286 "2022-07-28T02:25:43Z")
Are you F.wright? That is who my question was for due to a prior post. Did I indicate that buildings in disrepair shouldn’t be razed?
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