# NEW YORK | Congestion Pricing **URL:** \ **Category:** Zoning\ **Created:** [September 26, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031 "2014-09-26T17:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/81 "2023-08-10T00:44:14Z")
> **[Congestion Pricing Scanners Debut on Broadway, As Lawsuit Looms](https://www.thecity.nyc/manhattan/2023/8/9/23826175/congestion-pricing-scanners-broadway-lawsuit)** > > New scanning devices hover over streets near Columbus Circle, the first tangible signs of the tolls motorists will be charged to drive into Midtown Manhattan. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/2/0/20a04801185c4b5c1f4196781460a5860a1d8076.jpeg) Photo by Jose Martinez (The City) ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/82 "2023-08-21T03:21:06Z")
[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/4/64256800c9c918e1c2cb4702acb7157fd388b6f5.jpeg "Hearings and demonstrations take place over NYC's congestion pricing") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3rxS0i67VY) > The controversy over congestion pricing continues as the group deciding exactly how much drivers will pay to go below 60th Street met Thursday afternoon. Reporter Lauren Glassberg has the story. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/83 "2023-10-02T23:20:40Z")
> **[Panel weighs MTA's congestion pricing tolls and carve-outs](https://gothamist.com/news/panel-weighs-mtas-congestion-pricing-tolls-and-carve-outs)** > > Commuter buses and certain government vehicles should be exempt from the tolls, according to a transportation panel. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/84 "2023-10-07T23:09:08Z")
[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-07/mta-seeks-to-join-us-against-nj-suit-to-halt-congestion-pricing](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-07/mta-seeks-to-join-us-against-nj-suit-to-halt-congestion-pricing) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/85 "2023-11-18T17:00:54Z")
> **[MTA in talks to possibly settle N.J. congestion pricing lawsuit](https://www.nj.com/news/2023/11/mta-in-talks-to-possibly-settle-nj-congestion-pricing-lawsuit.html?outputType=amp)** > > Top MTA officials sat down to discuss a possible settlement of a lawsuit filed by New Jersey to block New York's congestion pricing plan. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/86 "2023-12-02T05:10:49Z")
> **[Civil servants – including NYPD and MTA employees – not exempt from $15...](https://gothamist.com/news/civil-servants-including-nypd-and-mta-employees-not-exempt-from-15-congestion-pricing-toll)** > > Ambulances, garbage trucks, police cars and fire trucks don’t have to pay the toll. But private vehicles belonging to those workers are still on the hook. ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/87 "2023-12-03T16:49:14Z")
[https://new.mta.info/document/127761](https://new.mta.info/document/127761) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/e/3/e3d0bbcc59863e6c836b647b7631b8c496e288a5.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/3/f3d8443718a05babcdf8e2cc756c22abc961b65b.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/6/a/6a44437bb0ef97de62c1a900d1d5298e04350947.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/9/d/9d60613b1460cdda332d593290b118cfcc58be61.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/5/f57971c47e8cb39ee36c97e4581c4297b7c784a9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/8/7/87907baa29f855a72080f2bd4009233d2ff142b9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/e/bee18f655536ba4fc696b9e227d327a1c572a3d9.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/7/8/7827984eeec3cc5e9339cf026b09624f31d49fe3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/88 "2023-12-07T16:28:43Z")
No doubt the litigation between the states will reach the Supreme Court of the United States. > **[MTA board approves congestion pricing tolls, initiating 60-day review](https://gothamist.com/news/mta-board-approves-congestion-pricing-tolls-initiating-60-day-review)** > > Tolls include $1.25 for cabs and $15 for passenger vehicles during the day, with few exemptions. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/89 "2023-12-11T00:33:40Z")
Everyone’s a critic. Especially on Broadway. > **[NYC’s $15 congestion toll bad for Broadway shows, rep says: ‘Just another...](https://nypost.com/2023/12/10/metro/scathing-review-15-congestion-toll-bad-for-broadway-shows-rep-says/amp/)** > > The head of a business group representing the Broadway Theater District and Times Square gave a scathing review to the state’s plan to impose a $15 “congestion” toll to enter the … ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/90 "2023-12-21T16:15:22Z")
Do you think they’ll reach an agreement that everyone will be happy with? > **[MTA and NJ still talking settlement terms in congestion pricing lawsuit with...](https://nypost.com/2023/12/20/metro/mta-and-new-jersey-still-talking-settlement-over-congestion-toll/amp/)** > > MTA and New Jersey officials are pushing forward with settlement talks that would end the Garden State’s lawsuit over New York’s coming and congestion pricing program. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/91 "2023-12-22T14:42:18Z")
Nope - ---
**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/92 "2023-12-22T18:28:21Z")
What is there to settle? People from Jersey shouldn’t be dictating to us what our policy’s should be. They should focus on expanding NJT & PATH instead of complaining that they cant drive here for free anymore. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/93 "2023-12-24T14:48:24Z")
These are people that are anti public transit. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/94 "2023-12-24T18:02:57Z")
I think we should be a bit more careful. While I strongly favor the congestion pricing plan, there will be folks from Jersey who are badly impacted. Not everyone across the Hudson is near mass transit. And if they are, much of it is terribly run at the moment. NJT is often a joke. So let’s have at least a scintilla of empathy with the anger that has arisen over the congestion pricing scheme. It’s going to hurt those away from transit options and without a lot of cash. That doesn’t mean it should be halted. Maybe it means that the system should be means tested to some degree if it’s possible to do so. If it is too complex to pull that off, I think we still need to implement the plan. ---
**Author:** ![MarshallKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/marshallknight/32/40545_2.png) [@MarshallKnight](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/MarshallKnight)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/95 "2023-12-24T18:03:46Z")
They’re freeloaders, too. Streets, bridges, tunnels, on-street parking, traffic cops and first responders aren’t cheap but these out of state commuters expect another state’s taxpayers to subsidize those services for them. But what should we really expect? A century of car-centric urban planning will warp your sense of reality. ^^ And of course we should have empathy for people who are legitimately financially impacted. That’s what all of the exemptions are for. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/96 "2023-12-24T18:09:14Z")
Agreed. Car culture is the long term issue in urban areas all across the country. But given where we are I can’t agree that freeloaders is a proper description of the issues. Gradual dismantling of some of the worst features of car culture can’t be done overnight and needs to be undertaken with some degree of understanding about who is helped and hurt. As a Manhattanite I’d love to cut car traffic, but that spigot will take a lot time, effort, and gobs of money to control. That we are just starting to recognize the severity of the issues and spend more national funds on mass transit and intercity trains means that the whole solution will not come soon. ---
**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/97 "2023-12-24T23:54:44Z")
Just wondering, all the discussion is on NJ. Is there pushback coming from Long Island, upstate NY and Connecticut? ---
**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:19am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/98 "2023-12-25T03:19:54Z")
Ok hypothetically speaking lets say someone drives to downtown because they dont live near transit in Jersey and are financially strapped, they pay for gas, tolls, parking…if they can afford that they can afford to park near a NJT or PATH station and take the train with the money saved on paying the toll. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/99 "2023-12-25T14:23:53Z")
Those who drive in to Manhattan tend to have options and can afford too because it’s already quite expensive to come into the city with a car and find parking. They just don’t want to deal with the public on mass transit and don’t want to subsidize it in any way. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/100 "2023-12-25T15:12:19Z")
^ This. Back when I was still working there were ladies from NJ and SI that took transit and one that drove every day. All the transit ladies said how much $ they saved using transit vs tolls gas and parking. They all had cars but usually did not use them for work so all this talk about expense is just whining. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=6)