# NEW YORK | Congestion Pricing **URL:** \ **Category:** Zoning\ **Created:** [September 26, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031 "2014-09-26T17:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/61 "2022-09-12T14:35:43Z")
> **[A Plan to Push Cars Out of Manhattan Could Make the Bronx’s Air Dirtier](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/12/nyregion/nyc-congestion-pricing-manhattan-bronx.html)** > > New York City’s congestion pricing program could cut traffic in the busy commercial district but push more vehicles into vulnerable areas. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/62 "2022-09-18T13:03:51Z")
> **[Manhattan Garage Owners Worry There Won’t Be Enough Cars to Go Around After...](https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/9/15/23351941/nyc-garage-owners-cars-congestion-pricing?_amp=true)** > > Now gaining speed, the plan to toll drivers traveling into Manhattan could threaten the existence of several parking facilities south of 60th Street. ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/63 "2022-09-18T14:21:58Z")
This sounds great. I’d like to see all garages redeveloped. There’s no need to drive into Manhattan. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/64 "2022-09-18T15:07:13Z")
This is why I call it bs to say congestion pricing will hit struggling NYers. It’s not struggling NYers that drive cars into Manhattan and those parking garages have been making a killing for years. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/65 "2022-10-10T12:02:23Z")
> **[New Jersey Governor Seeks to Slow New York’s Congestion Pricing Effort](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/06/nyregion/nj-biden-congestion-price-toll.html)** > > The plan would charge drivers who enter Manhattan below 60th Street. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/66 "2022-10-25T01:15:15Z")
> **[Real Estate Drives Congestion Pricing in Manhattan to the Finish Line](https://commercialobserver.com/2022/10/congestion-pricing-manhattan-real-estate/)** > > The tolls on vehicles entering Manhattan south of 60th Street are supposed to provide hundreds of millions of dollars for mass transit. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/67 "2022-10-26T13:41:51Z")
I can tell you in midtown south at least, traffic grinds to a near halt on a regular basis. It didn’t used to be this bad all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/68 "2023-01-20T01:48:39Z")
> **[NJ Democrat joins NY Republicans in congressional effort to sink NYC's...](https://gothamist.com/news/nj-democrat-joins-ny-republicans-in-congressional-effort-to-sink-nycs-congestion-pricing)** > > New Jersey Rep. Josh Gottheimer has repeatedly criticized the program, which would toll drivers who enter Manhattan south of 60th Street. ---
**Author:** ![BK1985](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BK1985](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/BK1985)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/69 "2023-01-20T22:38:36Z")
its simple, leave your car at home and take the train. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/70 "2023-05-07T04:01:40Z")
> **[N.Y. Congestion Pricing Plan Moves a Step Closer to Reality](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/05/nyregion/new-york-congestion-pricing.html)** > > The Federal Highway Administration said on Friday that the toll program, which would charge drivers entering Manhattan, could advance to its next steps before final approval. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/71 "2023-05-12T23:49:50Z")
> **[MTA reveals new details about nation's 1st congestion pricing plan in New...](https://abc7ny.com/congestion-pricing-nyc-taxi-drivers-mta/13238745/)** > > Under the plan, taxis will only be charged once a day to enter Manhattan's busiest commercial districts. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/72 "2023-05-13T21:48:05Z")
> **[Get a Load of the Congestion Pricing Exemptions that Some People Want](https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2023/05/12/get-a-load-of-the-congestion-pricing-exemptions-that-some-people-want/)** > > Many opponents of congestion pricing offered their select group that is worthy of an exemption from the toll. Here is the full list, annotated by Streetsblog. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/73 "2023-05-17T17:17:58Z")
> **[New Jersey’s Senators Push Back on Congestion Pricing](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/nyregion/congestion-pricing-new-york-new-jersey.html)** > > Senators Robert Menendez and Cory Booker joined the fight against the tolling program, which would charge drivers who enter Manhattan below 60th Street. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/74 "2023-06-27T21:26:29Z")
> **[NYC congestion pricing gets key federal approval, possibly in place by April...](https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-congestion-pricing-gets-key-federal-approval-possibly-in-place-by-april-2024)** > > The Federal Highway Administration ruled the system of tolling drivers into Midtown and Lower Manhattan had no significant environmental impact. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/75 "2023-07-22T11:30:56Z")
Lawsuits galore! > **[New Jersey Sues Over Congestion Pricing in New York City](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/21/nyregion/nj-congestion-pricing-nyc-lawsuit.html)** > > In its complaint, the state said it was challenging the Federal Highway Administration’s “decision to rubber-stamp” its approval of the plan. > **[Staten Island sues MTA over congestion tolling](https://bronx.news12.com/staten-island-sues-mta-over-congestion-tolling)** > > The lawsuit comes just days after New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy started a lawsuit against the federal highway administration saying the plan was misguided and violates environmental regulations. ---
**Author:** ![chris08876](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/chris08876/32/1617_2.png) [@chris08876](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chris08876)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/76 "2023-07-24T12:36:09Z")
I might get flack for this but I do have concerns on the wider impact when it comes to businesses and just the hit on the common man and woman. I do hope they give exceptions to taxi drivers and even truckers, just due to the local (potential) impact on the econony. In the end though, a lot of this will just be translate back to the consumers. I can understand private vehicles joy riding but hopefully there is a scheme for reduced rates for say commuters who have no choice to drive in. I hope the NJ and Staten Island lawsuits push this back. I don’t think the people are ready to have another tax imposed on them to account for bad MTA management. I also wonder if employers are going to factor this in when it comes to compensation packages, really for those folks that truly can’t take the train in. ---
**Author:** ![chused](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@chused](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/chused)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/77 "2023-07-24T13:42:46Z")
The final rates have not been determined. But there will be special lower costs for taxis and ride services, and for residents of the central city. Other categories are likely to arise. Tolls will be collected using EZPass and license numbers. (That probably will result in a lot of counterfeit plates.) The benefits for lower income folks will be slow to appear because the funds will be used to support transit. And we all know how long it takes the MTA, Amtrak, NJ Transit, and Metro North to get anything completed. But over the long haul this has to happen. Other cities (notably London which just enlarged the area covered) have certainly benefitted. ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/78 "2023-07-25T00:42:39Z")
I sort of agree that New Jersey people shouldn’t have to pay a second large toll to get into the city if using the Lincoln and Holland, or at least get a steep discount imo. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/79 "2023-07-25T13:42:47Z")
The point is unless you have some kind of handicap, nobody ‘has to’ drive into Manhattan. There are plenty of park and ride facilities. I know they get full and they will have to be expanded. It’s currently cheaper for NJ residents to take public transit into town as opposed to driving due to tolls and parking so the whole argument about expense is already nil. ---
**Author:** ![Nickfloyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/nickfloyo/32/173662_2.png) [@Nickfloyo](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Nickfloyo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/80 "2023-07-25T16:17:26Z")
I hope all or at least most of the funds go towards improving rail Infrastructure. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=5)