# NEW YORK | Congestion Pricing **URL:** \ **Category:** Zoning\ **Created:** [September 26, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031 "2014-09-26T17:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/41 "2022-08-13T19:49:33Z")
Oh I see ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/42 "2022-08-13T22:47:55Z")
The “vroom vroom” crowd cannot be stopped. They’ll just get EZ Passes, put $25 on them using a stolen gift card, attach the EZ Passes onto their “vroom vroom” car and call it a day. We are about to witness the birth of a whole generation of congestion-pricing scofflaws. ---
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/43 "2022-08-14T00:03:16Z")
Oh yeah, I nearly forgot they could use their EZ passes to go through. And, in my opinion, if most people use them to travel to Manhattan and have no problems doing so, then this congestion pricing plan would be somewhat pointless. Also, I’m curious how this plan will affect the soon-to-be redeveloped PABT ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/44 "2022-08-14T00:27:38Z")
Section 4C > **[Read the CBD Tolling Program Environmental Assessment](https://new.mta.info/project/CBDTP/environmental-assessment)** > > The Central Business District Tolling Program Environmental Assessment (EA) is now available for public review. We will accept comments on the document through September 9. ---
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 6:44am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/45 "2022-08-16T06:44:33Z")
Even this plan can have some flaws > **[Hochul congestion pricing hike puts struggling New Yorkers in a jam](https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/hochul-congestion-pricing-hike-puts-struggling-new-yorkers-in-a-jam/amp/)** > > With New York already facing a mass exodus, this Hochul Hike will help kick the outward flow of migration into overdrive. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/46 "2022-08-16T11:29:58Z")
That was written by the individual who is running against Gov. Hochul and published in an imitation newspaper. What did you expect? ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/47 "2022-08-16T13:38:25Z")
Ha ha the Post. 😝 ---
**Author:** ![robertwalpole](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/robertwalpole/32/15739_2.png) [@robertwalpole](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/robertwalpole)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/48 "2022-08-16T13:41:23Z")
The metro area has amazing commuter trains. There’s no reason to drive into the most densely packed city in the First World. Pedestrians should have priority. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/49 "2022-08-16T13:42:21Z")
The majority of struggling NYers aren’t driving cars into Manhattan that’s for sure. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 1:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/50 "2022-08-16T13:47:43Z")
When I was still working there was this woman that drove in every day from NJ. The other NJ lady that took transit told me about the cost difference which is considerable. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/51 "2022-08-16T14:39:19Z")
My relatives neighbor drives into Manhattan from the Pocono mountains, Pennsylvania every week day. He’s been doing it for years, insane. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/52 "2022-08-16T15:30:09Z")
The department head drove in every day from Long Branch. She tried the train for a week but she didn’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![NewYorkCity76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/newyorkcity76/32/190647_2.png) [@NewYorkCity76](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/NewYorkCity76)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/53 "2022-08-16T16:49:58Z")
> **[New York wants to charge up to $23 to enter parts of Manhattan. What happened...](https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/New-York-wants-to-charge-up-to-23-to-enter-parts-17375406.php)** > > Plans for congestion pricing have been “paused” in San Francisco while New York City... ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2022, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/54 "2022-08-17T13:48:08Z")
While New York careens toward a congestion pricing plan that would charge a toll to enter its busiest business district, San Francisco has temporarily hit the brakes on a similar plan. With stated goals of easing gridlock, improving safety for pedestrians, bicyclists and drivers, reducing air pollution and raising money to help improve transit, San Francisco was studying a plan to charge drivers entering a downtown zone $6.50 — with discounts based on income. That was in 2019, when traffic came to a standstill downtown during the morning and evening commutes. When the pandemic hit, traffic vanished during the shelter-in-place orders, dipped again with last winter’s surges, then slowly started returning. Commuter traffic has increased — particularly across the [Bay Bridge] but as any regular visitor to downtown can attest, it’s not what it used to be. The San Francisco County Transportation Authority, the agency preparing a congestion pricing plan, halted its research until traffic congestion returns, said Eric Young, a spokesperson for the agency. But the idea, first raised in San Francisco in 2004, hasn’t been dropped. “It’s been paused,” he said. “That’s how we refer to it.” New York’s plan would charge riders between $9 and $23 a day to enter part of Manhattan most of the day. Release of the environmental study for the project, which said it would reduce congestion of air pollution, sparked intense complaints, including from the governor of New Jersey. New York’s governor is pressing forward with the plan, which would raise funds to modernize and improve New York City’s transit network. If the Board of Supervisors, which sits as the Transportation Authority board, chooses to move ahead with congestion pricing, it would take five years before the plan would be implemented, Young said. The plan would require extensive planning, state legislation, installation of electronic toll collection equipment and alterations to some city streets. When the study slowed to a stop, planners were considering implementing congestion pricing in two downtown zones — one including the Financial District, Chinatown, the Tenderloin and South of Market. The other zone would be larger, including North Beach, Russian Hill, Fisherman’s Wharf and Marina Bay… The plan proposed electronically charging drivers entering the zone between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. and 6:30 p.m. a toll of $6.50 with a discounted cost of $4.33 for moderate-income people, $2.17 for low-income people and no charge for those with very low incomes. Drivers with disabilities would pay $3.25. Drivers for ride-hailing service like Uber and Lyft would pay the full charge for each ride, and would likely pass the fee on to passengers. Other drivers would be charged for a maximum of two rides. Discounts were also being contemplated for residents of the congestion zone and drivers who’ve already paid tolls to cross the Bay Bridge or Golden Gate Bridge. Revenues would be directed to improve Muni service — particularly to improve equity by offering more transit service in underserved areas, free fares for very-low-income riders, bike and pedestrian safety improvements, street repaving, better paratransit service, school buses and transit ambassadors. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 12:16pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/55 "2022-08-23T12:16:19Z")
> **[Struggling Taxi Drivers See Congestion Pricing as Fee That Breaks Their Backs](https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/8/22/23313635/struggling-cabbies-congestion-pricing-toll)** > > Report says demand for yellow cabs could drop by nearly 20%, adding to the troubles of drivers rocked by the pandemic and drowning in debt. ---
**Author:** ![GSPLover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@GSPLover](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GSPLover)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/56 "2022-08-23T17:44:52Z")
I am surprised taxis would not be exempt from congestion pricing. ---
**Author:** ![tjr101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/tjr101/32/125010_2.png) [@tjr101](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/tjr101)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/57 "2022-08-23T18:23:37Z")
A lot still has to be sorted out before this can be implemented. I would think taxis and delivery drivers would be exempt. The MTA is already collecting so many fees and yet it’s always in financial straits. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2022, 2:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/58 "2022-08-24T14:06:46Z")
It’s considered private transport. ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/59 "2022-08-25T20:59:36Z")
[https://mta-nyc.custhelp.com/app/cbd\_tolling](https://mta-nyc.custhelp.com/app/cbd_tolling) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/60 "2022-09-07T14:19:22Z")
> **[NY Republicans campaigning against Midtown congestion toll plan](https://nypost.com/2022/09/04/ny-republicans-campaigning-against-midtown-congestion-toll-plan/)** > > Republicans are trying to use the controversial plan to impose a big toll on motorists entering Midtown Manhattan against Dems in their political campaigns this fall. [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=4)