# NEW YORK | Congestion Pricing **URL:** \ **Category:** Zoning\ **Created:** [September 26, 2014, 5:32pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031 "2014-09-26T17:32:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/485 "2025-02-21T11:07:00Z")
> **[Should drivers get refunds for NYC congestion tolls? NJ Rep. Gottheimer...](https://gothamist.com/news/should-drivers-get-refunds-for-nyc-congestion-tolls-nj-rep-gottheimer-thinks-so)** > > Rep. Josh Gottheimer has spent years arguing against the Manhattan tolls. ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/486 "2025-02-21T13:24:27Z")
Gottheimer is a piece of s#$% Just another republican pretending to be a democrat. If anyone here is a NJ voter, we have a gubernatorial race this year. Ras Baraka or Steve Fulop would be excellent choices who don’t capitulate to the typical rich, suburban voting demographic. They’re both supportive of congestion pricing and zoning reform to increase housing supply. Not sure if my comment breaks the rules of the community, but it’s building of Gottheimer’s hatred of the toll. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/487 "2025-02-21T17:12:55Z")
Fulop is the one that is the most pro-transit. He wants an NJ version of the congestion toll and wants to give NJ Transit a _lot_ of desperately needed attention. He’ll also likely kill the NJ Turnpike’s dumb extension in Hudson County considering he opposed it going through Jersey City. He’s the one I’m voting for. Also, it’s a toll, not a tax. Idiots like Gottheimer think there’s no other way into Manhattan when you can easily avoid the toll by using transit. ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/488 "2025-02-22T14:56:25Z")
Does not compute in his brain. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 4:47am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/489 "2025-02-24T04:47:54Z")
The coming weeks will be especially riveting. > **[Hochul says she made a case to Trump for NYC's congestion pricing, yet...](https://apnews.com/article/new-york-congestion-pricing-tolls-trump-hochul-7ddf79eb0f11cab86347b244bbf2d516)** > > New York Gov. Kathy Hochul says she told President Donald Trump in a private meeting at the White House that congestion pricing tolls in Manhattan are necessary and working. > **[Hochul makes case for NYC congestion pricing during Oval Office meeting with...](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/trump-hochul-congestion-pricing-future/6160384/)** > > Hochul and Trump met for more than an hour on Friday afternoon and also discussed other issues including immigration, infrastructure, economic development, energy, offshore wind and nuclear power. [https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-22/hochul-meets-with-trump-to-defend-nyc-congestion-pricing](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-22/hochul-meets-with-trump-to-defend-nyc-congestion-pricing) ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/490 "2025-02-24T13:27:13Z")
Especially because “deals” are this gremlin’s language. So if we get to keep congestion pricing, he’ll want some kind of trade-off ---
**Author:** ![stache](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/stache/32/30186_2.png) [@stache](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/stache)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/491 "2025-02-24T14:46:17Z")
That’s pretty much how everything works. ---
**Author:** ![infoshare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/infoshare/32/18825_2.png) [@infoshare](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/infoshare)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/492 "2025-02-24T15:36:19Z")
![GkYQQV2aoAAPEhh](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/f/8/f88583c0860114d198278b8db1c96467f6482017.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/493 "2025-02-24T21:19:27Z")
> **[NYC congestion pricing tolls rake in $48M in first month, less than initial...](https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-congestion-pricing-tolls-rake-in-48m-in-first-month-less-than-initial-projections)** > > State law requires the MTA to use the money to finance mass transit repairs. ---
**Author:** ![streetscaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@streetscaper](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/streetscaper)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/494 "2025-02-24T21:41:22Z")
Even as President Donald Trump fights to [kill congestion pricing](https://www.6sqft.com/trump-nyc-congestion-pricing-program/) in New York City, the program raised [$48.6 million in revenue](https://www.mta.info/press-release/mta-releases-revenue-congestion-relief-zone-tolling-showing-program-line-projections) during its first month, meeting revenue goals set by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority. During an MTA meeting on Monday, the agency released the first financial results for the program for January 5 to January 31, **showing the toll is on track to bring in a projected $500 million per year, or about $40 million per month.** … **“We are on track for the projected $500 million in net revenue, especially as we get into warmer months when traffic will increase which provides confidence in the forecast,”** MTA Co-Chief Financial Officer Jai Patel said in a [press release](https://www.mta.info/press-release/mta-releases-revenue-congestion-relief-zone-tolling-showing-program-line-projections). > **[Congestion pricing raised $48.6M in first month, MTA says](https://www.6sqft.com/congestion-pricing-raised-48-6m-in-first-month-mta-says/)** > > New York City's congestion pricing program generated $48.6 million in its first month, even as President Donald Trump moves to kill the toll system. > **[Congestion Pricing Reduced Traffic. Now It’s Hitting Revenue Goals.](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/24/nyregion/nyc-congestion-pricing-revenue-mta.html)** > > Revenue figures from the Manhattan tolling plan showed that the program is on track to raise billions for mass transit repairs. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/495 "2025-02-24T23:58:57Z")
If it _didn’t_ work then Trump would have a stronger argument for killing it but it worked, as expected, so he has to resort to grasping for straws in his crusade against it. Also, considering the average toll (added all 6 toll rates and divided by 6) is 8.5 dollars, there have been at least 5.7 _million_ vehicles that have been tolled and countless others have been taken off the road due to the toll being an incentive to switch to transit. ---
**Author:** ![mtoltethys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mtoltethys/32/30087_2.png) [@mtoltethys](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mtoltethys)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/496 "2025-02-25T02:53:44Z")
So is congestion pricing paused or not? Hochul said the cameras are running but I’m hearing all different things. I hope it’s not, I’m commuting tomorrow lol ---
**Author:** ![mcart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/mcart/32/84718_2.png) [@mcart](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/mcart)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/497 "2025-02-25T04:42:14Z")
The MTA and governor have refused to stop collecting tolls. So it’s still on. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/498 "2025-02-25T16:48:30Z")
Its on. It can only be stopped if the courts order it to be stopped. Trump can make all the threats he want but he can’t _legally_ stop it himself. ---
**Author:** ![GentriVacation](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/gentrivacation/32/8324_2.png) [@GentriVacation](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/GentriVacation)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/499 "2025-02-25T19:06:29Z")
Hold the line! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/yimby/original/3X/b/1/b187f27145c466060ea8783fbbbf9f357bbaefe2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/500 "2025-02-26T19:19:13Z")
The benefits keep on coming. Crashes are down 20% since the toll started. > **[Wednesday's Headlines: Congestion Pricing Makes Us Safer Edition -...](https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2025/02/26/wednesdays-headlines-congestion-pricing-makes-us-safer-edition)** > > Crashes are down nearly 20 percent in the Manhattan congestion relief zone compared to last year. Plus more news. And it’s good for business. > **[New York’s toll system is the kind of market solution Republicans should be...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/25/business/new-york-congestion-pricing-nightcap/index.html)** > > “Congestion pricing” is the stuffy-sounding name of a New York policy that is, by every available metric, a resounding success. Anyone, including lapsed New Yorker President Trump, saying otherwise is simply ignoring the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/501 "2025-02-26T21:31:08Z")
> **[Trump admin sets deadline to shut down congestion pricing — but Hochul says...](https://nypost.com/2025/02/26/us-news/trump-admin-sets-deadline-to-shut-down-congestion-pricing-but-hochul-says-ny-wont-comply/)** > > The Trump administration has ordered New York to shut down its controversial congestion pricing in Manhattan in coming weeks, The Post has learned. “NYSDOT and its project sponsors must cease the c… > "NYSDOT and its project sponsors must cease the collection of tolls on Federal-aid highways in the CBDTP area by March 21, 2025,” Department of Transportation head Gloria Shepherd wrote in a letter to New York officials. The Compost says Gloria Shepherd heads the federal DOT. That’s not correct, but don’t expect the Compost to issue a correction. ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/502 "2025-02-26T22:47:05Z")
The Compost (and Trump) also don’t know law and without a court order, the MTA can continue to benefit from congestion pricing. Don’t expect a correction for that, either. ---
**Author:** ![Waymond\_Womano](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/waymond_womano/32/7078_2.png) [@Waymond\_Womano](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/Waymond_Womano)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/503 "2025-03-05T18:04:51Z")
> **[Trump wants NYC congestion pricing gone by March 21. Could N.J. make it end...](https://www.nj.com/news/2025/03/trump-wants-nyc-congestion-pricing-gone-by-march-21-could-nj-make-it-end-sooner.html)** > > Trump orders congestion pricing to end by March 21. Could N.J. take action to spare commuters from spending $9 for another 19 days? ---
**Author:** ![ALC11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.newyorkyimby.com/alc11/32/81254_2.png) [@ALC11](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/u/ALC11)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031/504 "2025-03-05T18:35:10Z")
They can try but they’ll have a hard time. The MTA is not backing down. Advocates are now suing the government as well. > **[NYC transit riders, climate activists sue Trump administration over...](https://www.amny.com/news/transit-climate-lawsuit-congestion-pricing/)** > > The Riders Alliance and Sierra Club filed a legal complaint against the USDOT for attempting to end congestion pricing in NYC. Some Anti-Congestion Pricing people from the suburbs speak their minds and fellate Trump: > **[Congestion Pricing Is Cancelled And Good Riddance - Queens Gazette](https://www.qgazette.com/articles/congestion-pricing-is-cancelled-and-good-riddance/)** > > As our regular readers must have gath­ered by now, the issue of congestion pric­ing is very important to us. We have written numerous editorials over the years strongly objecting to the proposal for many reasons. Not only for our own sakes, but we... > **[Malliotakis applauds Trump’s move to kill congestion pricing - The Brooklyn...](https://brooklynreporter.com/2025/03/malliotakis-applauds-trumps-move-to-kill-congestion-pricing/)** > > U.S. Rep. Nicole Malliotakis applauded President Donald Trump for keeping his word on ending congestion pricing. The President’s administration instructed the city … And it’s pretty obvious why Trump hates it. > **[The Real Reason Trump Hates Congestion Pricing So Much](https://newrepublic.com/article/192177/trump-congestion-pricing-hochul-fight)** > > And why it’s so important for New York to fight back [Previous page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=24) [Next page](https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/new-york-congestion-pricing/1031.md?page=26)